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David Guest
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£100k fake DVD racket man jailed

A fraudster caught buying and selling bogus DVDs in a scam worth nearly £100,000 on ebay has been jailed.




Paul Foster imported fake box sets of hit TV series from China and delivered to his home in Penkridge.

He then sold thousands of the DVDs on the auction website without the necessary consent of trademark owners, Stafford Crown Court heard.
this was published in the express and star newspaper on 12th jan
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Foster was reported to Staffordshire Trading Standards which searched the address in January last year and recovered 1,816 box sets - including 54 different titles - worth around £40,000.

Investigators trawled through Foster's emails which showed he had sourced the products from China and made orders totalling in excess of £8,500.

Via Ebay he recorded sales totalling around £60,000.

Mr Watkin told the court Foster arranged for some of the fake DVDs to be delivered to his unknowing mother-in-law and brother in an attempt to throw the authorities off the scent.

He said: "The defendant even attempted to negotiate a deal with his supplier in which he said if goods were seized by customs the supplier would have to bare 40 percent of the losses.

"Also interesting is the prices at which he sold the DVDs. They did not differ hugely from the price of legitimate DVDs. We sometimes hear that buyers knew they were getting a fake product, but this is not one of those cases."

Foster, who represented himself in court, said he only benefitted from up to £20,000 in profits from the goods.

"£40,000 of stock was taken away so I lost all of that. It was only £60,000 that I sold on Ebay and if you take off VAT and tax it comes down to around £15,000 or £20,000 in profit," he added.

Judge Mark Eades said: "You went into this operation with your eyes wide open and you did it out of greed. This was fraudulent through and through.

"It is not just the DVD and trademark aspects but you were also seeking to avoid import duty by having the goods misdescribed."

Prosecutors will now seek to reclaim some of Foster's profits under Proceeds of Crime legislation.

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John Richard Almond
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Play with fire and all that.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Paul is, whatever the outside world views, a lover of our hobby and the film hobby in general.

The facts don't lie but nevertheless, this is very sad news in the era when it's impossible for ANY dealer to make a living from film and film alone!

Very sad news all around I'd say. [Confused]

One less in a UK which now has only three major players as it is!!

Very very sad day for all in our hobby!

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Tom Photiou
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yep, his movie shop on ebay is down, i just think the jail thing is way overkill, he's hardly a danger to the the public.

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David Guest
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I to was shocked when I stumbled on it on the net looking for something ,I have looked on ebay now but its all ended on there now I believe he has got 16 months jail its a long time .

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Andrew Woodcock
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Thanks for sharing David. This was indeed sad news to us all albeit inevitable some might say.

A loveable rogue it would seem!

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John Hourigan
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Regardless of format, you don't mess with copyright and trademarks.

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Andrew Woodcock
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As is proved here john sadly.

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Douglas Meltzer
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A reminder....this Forum has a "no discussion of politics" rule.

Three posts have been deleted.

Shocking to hear about Paul.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Indeed Doug!!

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Mark Todd
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Hope Paul is OK as he can be, and in an open or OK-ish place.

Best Mark.

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Larry Arpin
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I hope they didn't confiscate the films but I suspect they did. I'm sorry to hear this happen.

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Jason Gronn
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I can't believe it, such a shame.
Only just received some 16mm films from him the other day.

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Mark Mander
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I think it's a shame,hopefully he'll bounce back from this, Mark.

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Paul Barker
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really not supprised. i like many others had been sold a film from him not as described.his attitude left a lot to be desired when you complained about a film. i warned people on here but no one wanted to listen.the attitude of im alright jack from some collectors i found very sad indeed.

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Maurice Leakey
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Despite it being Paul's first offence the Judge sentenced him to 16 months in prison.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2016/01/12/100k-fake-dvd-racket-man-jailed/

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Steven J Kirk
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Oh dear, this is a bit of a shock. My dealings with him were always fine. I hadn't noticed that the ebay shop was gone.

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Ferran Gimenez
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[Confused]
I can't believe it.

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Paul Barker
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yes he was such a great guy that he even decieved his partners mother and his own brother.whatever people thought he was, the truth of the man is out at last.

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Lee Mannering
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I would believe it as the British legal system found said person guilty and now serving sentence of 16 months.

Personally the only thing I find sad about all this is its a blot on our beloved hobby.

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Jonathan Trevithick
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Being overseas, I always paid via Paypal Lee which is much safer. I must say that although not every film transaction i've had with Paul has been perfect, this is a total surprise.

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David Guest
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I was lucky to get my money back for a film I bought recently as I would have had to wait 16months for it I wonder how many are in a similar situation who had bought recently

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Andrew Woodcock
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Knowing our judicial system here, he will be out by May anyhow David.

I just hope no one has any valuable items in limbo at the moment through all of this.

I tried phoning him only last week for some Filmguard, but I was surprised when repeatedly, I could get no answer.

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Not my favourite man. A Bowery Boys film had more spices than I thought possible in a film and other transactions haven't always proved satisfactory. I'd decided not to buy from him again. A number of his dvd customers were upset to find they had purchased copies and not originals and made no bones about airing their feelings of being ripped off. Sad that it happened to him but that's the risk you take when you get involved with dishonest means.

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Tom Photiou
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Putting the whole film dealership aside, i am just very surprised that this has ended in a jail term, at the end of the day he clearly did wrong but selling DVDs, "movies" TV programs" to me just ridiculous that they sent him to prison. Confiscate everything, fines but Jail? The things people do in this country that are so much more serious and they end up being let off or just given the pathetic punishment of community service.
I dont recall Bob Monkhouse going to jail when he was arrested for having 16mm films he shouldn't have had.
Utterly over the top.

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