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William Olson
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 - posted November 25, 2016 08:59 AM      Profile for William Olson   Email William Olson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I definitely love slot loading but I only have it on my Elmo 16cl.

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted November 25, 2016 11:37 AM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
Japanese?????? Over rated, Where?????

Not in my house David! [Wink]

Keep up please, David. [Big Grin] [Wink]

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Tom Spielman
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 - posted November 25, 2016 03:26 PM      Profile for Tom Spielman   Email Tom Spielman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, you all seem to be thoroughly enjoying yourselves having this little debate. [Smile]

I don't have much to add. I think it's fair to say that anybody still projecting Super 8 films is more than capable of threading a projector. However, auto-threading was not merely some marketing ploy. Super 8 was intended to be the format for the masses. My dear mother was not a technical person. She once expressed her befuddlement over the fact that a microwave oven could still display the time while not actually on. [Smile]

I'm sure she could have mastered threading a projector if she wanted but it was all magic to her. She would have forgotten how to do it within a few months of no practice. It's much better for people like that to make things as easy as possible. There's no reason to limit the enjoyment of Super 8 or anything else to those "in the know".

And really, that's why Super 8 is now limited to hobbyists. Modern methods of movie production and consumption are far easier and more convenient.

To get on a soapbox for a little bit, I think that is one reason why pastimes like sailing are in decline. Those that have learned the skills revel too much in their mastery of it. They continue to use arcane terminology that makes it less approachable to those that might otherwise be interested. They worry too much over whether people are doing it "right" and less over whether or not they're enjoying themselves. Yet, they mourn the fact that not as many young people get into it as they used to. Want to keep sailing vibrant? Make it easy, fun, and practical.

Okay, I'm done with my mostly irrelevant rant. Carry on with your fun !

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Steve Klare
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 - posted November 25, 2016 04:02 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got a new car a couple of years ago.

Honda Civic: 1.8 Liter, 5 valves per cylinder, multiport fuel injection, nice flowing exhaust. It's a great engine!

I had to get the automatic because it's a family car and my wife and a clutch would have to lead to transmission parts scattered all over the road and smoke pouring out!

-but, this car with five on the floor would be a hoot!

Based on how much I miss the stick I had in my Mustang GT, I am feeling the manual thread argument without ever having done it myself!

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted November 26, 2016 03:22 PM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
Turning Japanese, I'm really turning Japanese...I don't think so!😀😀😀

https://www.bing.com/search?pc=ASWI&form=AMZNS2&q=turning+japanese

Did you have a hand in this production, Doug? [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

[ November 26, 2016, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted November 26, 2016 04:40 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Vapors were responsible for that song. They only had two albums yet the record company still released a Best of compilation.

I believed they preferred manual threading.

Doug

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Andrew Woodcock
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I'm sure they bloody did Doug! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

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David Hardy
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 - posted November 28, 2016 02:29 PM      Profile for David Hardy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes that's it in a nutshell guys.
I am biased towards manual thread projectors.

I am also very Anti Japanese projectors too.
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

However given the resources and knowledge and funding
I would have designed the best Film Projectors ever built
on all gauges.

They would all have been designed and manufactured in Scotland.
All Manual Threaders and built from girders.
"MADE IN SCOTLAND "
Now there would be a dream come true for me. hahahaha !!! [Wink] [Wink] [Wink]

Yes Tom you are right there. I am very "esoteric" in a sense.
Stuff made for the masses does very little for me.

Just take a look the indifferently designed TVs, Radios , Cars ,
Watches , Mobile Phones , Computers , Laptops , MP3 Players ,
in todays world and you will see where I am coming from.
So I suppose the convenience of Super 8mm film with its cartridge
loading for Cameras and Auto threading projectors could indeed
fall into that category of "film for the masses". From 1965 onwards. That was the way until the dawning of Video Tapes. [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
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To be fair David, your great nation has produced more than its fair share of great inventors, especially in the Engineering world.

Who knows, maybe you'd have placed your name among them?😊

I can see it now,

Ladies & Gentleman, I present to thee....drum roll....

The Hardy Mag/ Opt Mono Manual 708D SC (in recognition to its birthplace!)

[Smile] [Wink]

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David Hardy
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Michty me min Andrew !

Am fairly chokit wi imotion at the thocht o' it.

Aye ! It wid hea bin a richt grand machine it wid !
[Wink] [Wink] [Wink]

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Mike Newell
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It's in the porridge Andrew as Hancock would have said.

Lang may yer lum reek Davy.

Now Heid doon arse up with this project or they will be saying Yer bum’s oot the windae
[Eek!]

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David Hardy
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Hahahahaha ! Mike I just noticed your reply.

Thanks the noo ! [Big Grin] [Wink]

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