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Maurice Leakey
Film God
Posts: 5895
From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted August 24, 2017 02:45 AM
I am sure we all know about some eBay sellers of films and equipment who seldom really know what they are selling. For a start, their Buy It Now prices are absurd, but the real problem is that a buyer doesn't know the condition of an item.
Take for instance, projectors. Comments like:- "Can't check as no mains lead", or similar:- "Can't check as no film", and then nearly always:- "Sold as seen. No return". Projectors such as the early 16mm sound models seldom refer to a transformer or loud-speaker.
So, it is my pleasure to recommend a fairly new seller on British eBay, "cinema_paradiso" who joined two years ago in August 2015. He says:- "I have been interested in the world of film making for 45+ years. I am familiar with Std-8, Super-8 and 16mm equipment and service and repair many machines. I am now a dedicated 16mm film collector with a wish to keep the film hobby alive."
I have just bought from him a 16mm Elf RT-0 to which he had carried out the following work before sale:-
Drive belts replaced
Two new lamps fitted
Gears lubricated
Scanning head realigned
Amplifier pots cleaned
Clutch adjusted
Take-up hub replaced
Auto-thread mechanism adjusted
In an email to me he said:- "I have a workshop full of machines that I intend to list over the coming months, and also a huge stock of spare parts, particularly for the Elf machines. Therefore, you may rest assured that should a fault develop, I will have a part for it. It's amazing to think that these machines can still run so well after such a long time".
His prices are not cheap, but I would say that you get what you pay for. My Elf looks and sound like a new projector.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_ssn=cinema_paradiso&_sop=10
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 24, 2017 04:08 AM
Good to hear Maurice and good advice there also from Martin.
The only issue with that policy on ebay, is it also leaves these things open to abuse from none too scrupulous buyers of which there can equally be plenty of out there.
How can any of us, hard on heart, guarantee a buyer's happiness with used goods many of which are 30 years old or even older when just about everything regarding this hobby is completely subjective?
I personally think that this aspect of ebay ruling is nonsensical for anything other than brand new items.
However, I also think for items such as records and films or even the hardware for these items for example, a full detailed and accurate description should be insisted upon for any sales and should be binding for both seller and buyer.
All goods should be also tested in advance to guarantee they are in the exact condition as advertised with no uncertainty either way at the time of dispatch.
Some examples of unscrupulous buyer activities include swapping reels over as well as using this as a film rental service, not to mention damage that wasn't there when shipped but now sadly, very much is!
As a seller, how on earth do you safeguard yourself against any of this?
All in all, if deception is intended either way, it can be a jungle out there and I am only pleased Maurice has found a fairly new seller on ebay UK who is very sincere and completely genuine.
I think a list of all those proven to be of a similar ilk, should be drafted up here so people can reference it in advance.
The odd bad buy makes no one a villain if it all gets sorted out amicably, but repeated and continual deception either way needs highlighting imo.
[ August 24, 2017, 05:12 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted August 24, 2017 03:58 PM
Two things here,
David, if everything goes to plan and we come up to Blackpool in 2018, we will be looking at a good Elf purchase, not going over the top but will be in touch with you before hand.
Funny you should mention the no returns policy, i usually have this selected without even thinking about it, i once sold reel two of Master & Commander to a German bidder who thought he was a smart alec. He won the bid, cant remember how much it was, but he bid the price. When he received it it obviously didn't have the action part of the film he thought it had. ( Thats reel 5 which we have). so he sent me a mail stating the sound was faulty which was bollocks, we had it for a few years and it had perfect stereo sound & he said it wasn't worth what he paid. Well, thats an auction, you bid you pay. When i told him he made a decision to bid up he was dumb enough to put in an email that he would simply tell ebay the film is rubbish and faulty and i will forced to refund all of his money. Well, i simply contacted them with live chat and copied and pasted what he said so they told him where to go in the end. I banned him as a bidder on anything else i sold. Morons ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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