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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted February 05, 2018 06:07 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Trigger by the other thread about bad language I am curios to know in the real life when actually people start using those swearing bad languages?

I am not an English speakers so have no idea.

The reason of my question because I was watching a movie set up in 1930s era and shows people were using those swearing (F*, M* F*, A** etc) which make me think if this is a movie mistake (goofs) or it is actually the case.

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Steve Klare
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 - posted February 05, 2018 06:28 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As far as when I start using them:

Spilled Coffee: No
Spilled Beer: Depends on the beer
Spilled Paint: Every Time!
Drop wrench on floor: No
Drop wrench on foot: Oh yeah!
Drop wrench on head: I'm not sure (can't remember!)
Huge balance on credit card: depends who ran it up!
Around a child: Never
Around a teenager: More often than I'd like.
Around an Adult: Less than a teenager!

As far as when they entered the language? They say the curse words are often among the oldest English words we have!

What's acceptable in polite conversation changes, what's said behind the scenes never does.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted February 06, 2018 12:09 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Winbert ...

Actually, until around 1933, Hollywood got away with a good deal of foul language, (the production code came into play largely due, to legend, Mae West and Betty Boop!) ...

I even remember a number of cartoons, (early warners toons, for instance), where the "F" word was used! No kidding.

... as well as naughty "backwards dialogue" smutty jokes. One of them was very funny, as the animated Hippo (who is a lady) says some obviously backwards dialogue, and if you play that part of the cartoon backwards, the lady was referring to a well known at the time "speak easy" that had a, shall we say, "checkered past".

In fact, here is that clip ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXp9QZIp7Gk

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Douglas Meltzer
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Many of these words were adapted from Dutch & German usage and made their appearance in english at least as far back as the 14th century.

Please note that this is merely a cursory history.....!

Doug

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Brian Fretwell
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 - posted February 07, 2018 03:41 AM      Profile for Brian Fretwell   Email Brian Fretwell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is said that more people started using them in Britain after Kenneth Tynan used one on live TV (Supposedly the first time, but Miriam Margoles has said she said it first on University Challenge).

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Allan Broadfield
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 - posted February 07, 2018 06:22 AM      Profile for Allan Broadfield   Author's Homepage   Email Allan Broadfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As I said in the other thread, Brian, us kids were swearing like troopers in the playground in the fifties, and I was shocked later to find the adults at it when I started work.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted February 07, 2018 11:17 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Cursory History"

Good one, Doug! [Big Grin]

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