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Jim Schrader
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From: Savage, MN, USA
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 - posted April 12, 2019 09:51 AM      Profile for Jim Schrader   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Schrader   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just noticed this my browser says this site is not secure is Doug and Brad aware of this?

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Jim Schrader
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 - posted April 15, 2019 06:31 PM      Profile for Jim Schrader   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Schrader   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Apparently not

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Michael Lattavo
Expert Film Handler

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From: Canton, OH, USA
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 - posted April 15, 2019 08:51 PM      Profile for Michael Lattavo   Email Michael Lattavo   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The way our company's website designer explained it is that it is just a new way for the major search engines to get more hosting revenue. We will probably end up paying the annual fee for our company, but it is really just for appearances.

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Mathew James
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From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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 - posted April 15, 2019 09:49 PM      Profile for Mathew James   Email Mathew James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jim,
1. You are correct that this site is not using encryption.
So...When you log into this site, your username and password is not encrypted currently under the site setup using the http: protocol, meaning if someone 'rogue' were using exploitation tools, they can see/capture data and decrypt it thus revealing your username or password, which they could then use to log into the site.
Once in the site, they could look at your PM, change things in your profile, etc...
On many many forums, for many many years, their was no SSL secure protocol one could use to encrypt the site data as it was transferred...we 'admins' dealt with the 'rogues' in the same way we do now...We kick them off once discovered. You can normally discover and ban IP addresses etc.. Trust me, these guys want banking info type sites, not film forums!
On our end(as users), some rules can be followed to help alleviate any heart palpitations occurring from this revelation of fact... Such as, Do not send PERSONAL BANKING info using PM, or delete PM's as a practice so if someone were to log in, they wouldn't see anything. Really, we shouldn't have any super sensitive info online anyways!

Now, the next question may be, why do our admins not just secure the site? Well, I can tell you from my own experience as a forum admin, for many years i didn't because a) i didn't have any issue or reason to, and b)the ripoff cost to pay for an SSL is stupid and unnecessarily expensive. What i did rather is moved my forums to a host that includes this(SSL) at their expense automatically in the package, not mine. For example hostpapa is one that includes, so my forums are now https:// automatically now.
I hope this helps explain a bit and gives some level of comfort. Cheers.

[ April 16, 2019, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Mathew James ]

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted April 15, 2019 10:06 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you Jim, Michael and Mathew. I've brought this to Brad's attention.

Doug

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Brad Miller
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 - posted April 16, 2019 01:34 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Matthew explained it pretty well. Unless you guys are using the same password here that you do for your online banking, you seriously have nothing to worry about.

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Brian Stearns
Master Film Handler

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From: Lexington
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 - posted April 16, 2019 02:08 AM      Profile for Brian Stearns   Email Brian Stearns   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Anybody can read this forum and view what you say without signing in. So not really secure. That means any posted info on our private gathering Cinesea can be read. Need to implement a way to allow visitors to sign in to view the site like most sites.

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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 - posted April 16, 2019 05:53 AM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brian,

I disagree: I think it's better for both this Forum and Cinesea if people can see what's going on.

Many of us were lurkers here and many at CineSea aren't Forum members either.

I wrote two immense photo essays about the weekend and part of the reason was I wanted to bring in new people.

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted April 16, 2019 06:12 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brian, what would you hyde what's happening at Cinesea ? Most of non American will never get the chance to attend this event, so it's great to see pictures and read reviews 😀

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Paul Adsett
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I agree with Steve and Dom, keep the forum open. You can't argue with success, this forum has been around for about 20 years, much longer than the others that have either folded or reverted to a state of suspended animation. In those 20 years no one has ever complained of their computer being hacked as a result of this forum activity.

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Brian Stearns
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From: Lexington
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 - posted April 16, 2019 09:09 PM      Profile for Brian Stearns   Email Brian Stearns   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was told from the horses mouth that Cinesea is a private gathering. So if it's an open site and anyone can read what's posted. There's a contradiction here. If it is a said private gathering then why post on an open site. You guys missed my point.

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Lee Mannering
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 - posted April 16, 2019 09:59 PM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree its great to have a open space to share information about something we enjoy however the world has become a very different place now as we can all see eyes wide open.

Off topic but I have always thought it a great shame so many just sit back and read these forums but contribute zero. In a way it takes a great deal out of the film movement excuse the pun.

Take care all.

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Steve Klare
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 - posted April 16, 2019 10:31 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know about that, Lee!

Maybe we should be grateful all 6257 don't post on a daily basis: it would be bedlam!

Brian, I am going to have to talk to the Horses: I've been going to CineSea for nine years now and I've never gotten the impression it's private. It's certainly not by invitation and it's been talked about on multiple film forums.

We've never made it a goal to keep people out, to the contrary what bothers us a little is the people we are aware of that are within day trip range that won't give it a shot.

-it's like what my Mom used to say about Asparagus: "How can you say you don't like it until you've tried it once?"

(For the record: I tried it and don't like it anyway...Bleahhh!)

If CineSea is a secret it's one of the worst kept on the planet. One of the Horses has actually secured a Web domain for it. There are literally hours of YouTube videos and easily 10 photo essays about the goings-on.

-all we need is a Bat-Signal out by the pool!

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted April 16, 2019 10:49 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brian,

The "horse" you spoke with was legally correct. The difference between a public gathering and CineSea is that CineSea takes place on private property. Yes, we do ask people to attend the event however the public does not have "free or lawful access" to the space.

Doug

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Steve Klare
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 - posted April 16, 2019 10:58 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
-and at the same time if some interested party walked in without us personally inviting them we wouldn’t call for the bouncer!

-but they’ll never become interested if they don’t know about it.

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted April 16, 2019 11:05 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
....unless said party insisted that we screen the 400' digest of The Rose. We would then have to call the proper authorities.

Doug

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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AGREED!

(There have to be limits!)

What’s fun is when somebody comes through that was really only in town for the beach! We become amazing to them!

(One young couple left with a projector and a couple of films!)

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted April 16, 2019 11:14 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Now that we've said that, I'm sure some rapscallion will bring that print for the Saturday screening.

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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 - posted April 16, 2019 11:42 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've been to the Corral: the Horse is right! The issue was my interpretation of "Private". In this case "Private" does not also mean "Secret".

All in favor, say "Nayyyy"!

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Brian Stearns
Master Film Handler

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 - posted April 17, 2019 12:25 AM      Profile for Brian Stearns   Email Brian Stearns   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
neigh [Smile]

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Lee Mannering
Film God

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Someone could turn up with a 17.5 Sound film along and throw a reel spanner in the works. [Eek!] A Steve the Horse cartoon would be ideal!
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Have a great time all.

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Patrick Walsh
Jedi Master Film Handler

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naww I like THE ROSE [Big Grin]

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