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Lee Mannering
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 - posted February 11, 2007 04:38 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have been to Tonys den many times over the years and have come away with a few interesting items. We went last year but Tony has reduced much stock for what may be a move to a smaller pad, so you may not find quite as much as you expect to... Have a good trip anyway.

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted February 11, 2007 09:59 AM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike & Craig,
There's a very nice bakery/cafe/restaurant in the center of Buckingham, just down the street from Buckinhgham films. It is an old tudor building with a thatched roof - charming place for soup and a sandwich or a cup of tea. You may want to check it out.
And please leave some 9.5 stuff for me !(I hope to visit Bucks in May) [Big Grin]
Good luck with that projector Craig.

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Craig Hamilton
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 - posted February 13, 2007 12:38 PM      Profile for Craig Hamilton   Email Craig Hamilton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well today I made the trip to see Tony at Buckingham Films, what an Aladdin’s cave of all gauges. 9.5mm 8mm & some 16mm. After drooling over some of the equipment on display I have settled for a beautiful 1920’s Pathe Baby.

This projector has been fully restored and converted to modern electronics with a QI halogen light. It is fully motorised rather than being hand cranked, it even has a motor driven rewind. Sadly, Tony was not happy with the light output and has recommended that I give him a couple of days to have the lamp assembly re-adjusted.

Not only is this machine very attractive to look at with its motor mounted and the 300ft super arms fitted, it is very hypnotic to watch in operation. So I now eagerly await an email from Tony to say it is ready for collection. When I receive it I will post a couple of pictures, I may even take a leaf out of Lees book and post a little video on Youtube. I did buy some films, along with a 9.5 splicer, leader and a bottle of fresh cement.

A trip to Buckingham films is recommended if you have some spare time, it is very easy to get to.

Paul, you were right when you said that was a good bakery. thick steak slice with a huge apple turnover for desert.

Craig

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted February 13, 2007 05:04 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Glad to hear you had a successful visit Craig. You will really love that Pathe Baby. Its a stunning looking machine and a real conversation show piece for cine and non-cine people alike. I have modified my machine to 20 watt halogen lighting also, pretty essential as the supply of original lamps is almost non-existant, plus the original resistance matt in the base of the machine, used to drop the voltage, is lethal. One thing you may want to consider Craig, is disabling the notched title device. When you swing back the gate for threading you will see a little spring loaded plate on the left hand side of the gate. This is Pathe's patented notch title device, and when you are running 9.5mm films with notched titles it trips the mechanism for several turns of the handle, so that you can read the notched title, which is only on one or two frames of the film. (The very early Pathe 9.5mm films were all notched titles, to save on film, but the vast majority of the Pathescope prints were running titles). This little device works great, but the problem I have found is that it can sometimes make the threading of the film a little difficult as it tends to 'pop' the film out of position when the gate is open. So if you are not running any notched titles there is a simple way to temporarily disable the notching device thru the top of the machine by inserting a paper clip at the appropriate location in the mechanism. I have done this on my Pathe Baby, and it makes life a lot easier to thread the film thru the gate, and it does not change the projector in any way.

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Pathe Baby rules!...... [Wink]

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Craig Hamilton
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 - posted February 16, 2007 04:48 PM      Profile for Craig Hamilton   Email Craig Hamilton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, she’s arrived. My new little Baby to the home looks perfect. This is a standard Pathe Baby decked out with her accessory outfits, consisting of the motor drive unit, 300ft extension arms, high-speed drive-rewind device and front tilt-leveling legs.

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This Baby has had all the original electronics removed and replaced with modern electrics and a neat little black transformer that fits snugly in the base where the old resistance dropper was once housed. It is now fitted with a modern 12v halogen lamp that still allows the screening of notched titles. Below is a little video clip of her running. Sorry about the lighting quality, but I took this video with my digital camera.

The Excessive noise is coming from the small microphone on the camera. The projector is surprisingly quiet considering that this is vintage machinery.

Pathescope Baby

Craig

[ February 16, 2007, 06:56 PM: Message edited by: Craig Hamilton ]

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted February 16, 2007 08:20 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What a beautiful looking baby, Craig! Congratulations to you and your wife, and I hope your wife is doing fine! [Big Grin]
Seriously though, it really is a stunning looking machine. I really do have to try and get a motor on mine, but the motor system for the American 'Pathex' version of the 'Baby', (the motor is spring loaded against the shutter wheel), is a kluge compared with the sensible and elegant belt driven European set up shown on Craig's picture.

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Craig Hamilton
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 - posted February 17, 2007 02:50 AM      Profile for Craig Hamilton   Email Craig Hamilton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the tip regarding the paper clip Paul, I will give it a go when I am not watching notched titles. I have to say that I am very impressed with the print quality of these old vintage frames, nice contrast & definition. Now I need to give them all a good clean & lube, this may be a little tricky as I have no rewind arms for 9.5mm. Hopefully the good old BFCC will sort me out in this area in a few weeks time.

Craig

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Kevin Faulkner
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 - posted February 17, 2007 04:15 AM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
Stunning is the word which comes to mind. I want to see the new baby in the flesh.

I have to say I would love to get my hands on a 9.5 sound machine.

Kev.

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Chris Quinn
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 - posted February 19, 2007 12:58 PM      Profile for Chris Quinn   Email Chris Quinn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That it's awesome looking Craig, just looked at the vid, must also see it in the flesh soon.

Chris.

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Martyn Stevens
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 - posted July 06, 2007 01:39 PM      Profile for Martyn Stevens   Author's Homepage   Email Martyn Stevens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,
Just joined up and spotted a couple of items here of interest. I saw my Gem picture posted by Paul Adsett. A friend of mine took it, against a neutral photo paper background and lots and lots of light and flash. One or two others came out almost as good, eg the Heurtier Universal (see Multigauge on my website www.cinerdistan.co.uk). Non-commercial use of pix is fine, but pl remember to acknowledge.
Other point was Marilyn Monroe lamp. I've always known this as the Mae Wesr.

Martyn Stevens

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted July 06, 2007 01:57 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Martyn,
I apologize for not acknowledging your web site as the source of the Gem photo.
For anyone who does not know of Martyn's excellent web site, it is a MUST for all things 9.5mm, 17.5mm, and 28mm. I usually check in at least once a week, because Martyn is continuously updating his pages, and keeps what amounts to a running diary of his cine activities.

http://www.cinerdistan.co.uk/index.htm

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Martyn Stevens
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 - posted July 07, 2007 07:39 AM      Profile for Martyn Stevens   Author's Homepage   Email Martyn Stevens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Craig, re your beautiful Baby. The purist in me feels the big pulley on the top arm should not be there - it's a motor pulley. Rewind is via the thing on the side, so not sure what this top pulley is sposed to do.

Martyn

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Trevor Adams
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 - posted July 09, 2007 03:12 PM      Profile for Trevor Adams   Author's Homepage   Email Trevor Adams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike,an important thing to remember is,you can drink the contents of toad's stomachs-and even eat the legs for "afters".No problem surviving if you know the "wrinkles" listed in a West Australian Automobile Association Book!!!! [Wink]

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Craig Hamilton
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 - posted July 15, 2007 11:11 AM      Profile for Craig Hamilton   Email Craig Hamilton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Martyn,

You are correct, it is a motor pulley. What you see in the photo is how it came. Personally I think it adds to the cosmetic look of the machine. This projector has given me a lot of pleasure and some of the prints I have look superb when projected which is surprising when you see the lens on the Baby.

My baby will be undergoing a full strip down & re-build during the summer and the casing will be stripped and re-enameled. This is not only a good working projector, it is also a very pleasing reminder how home cinema used to be.

Craig

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