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Carlo Saino
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 - posted August 04, 2018 03:10 AM      Profile for Carlo Saino   Email Carlo Saino   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm new on this forum, thanks for accepting me, I write from Italy and I apologize for my bad English, I recently found a Midget Movie, does anyone have any information about it?
Is it just a small projector or is it also a manual camera?
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Maurice Leakey
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Carlo
It looks very much like a hand turned Pathe-Baby camera, model C.201, but missing its lens.
They were made in France between 1923 and 1930.
See the attached:-
http://www.pathefilm.uk/95gearpathe.htm

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Dominique De Bast
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Welcome to the forum, Carlo ! Do you have other 9.5 equipement or films ? It's always nice to see ninefivers from all around the world.

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Carlo Saino
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 - posted August 04, 2018 08:29 AM      Profile for Carlo Saino   Email Carlo Saino   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the reply,
no it is not a Pathè, meanwhile in the Grahame N 'Web Pages 9.5MM EQUIPMENT CATALOGUE, I found this camera / projector, Mr. Grahame owns one and kindly described it to me as a puzle ..., we will try to solve it .. .

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Maurice Leakey
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On referring to Grahame's page once again following Carlo's reply we have the following:-
A camera/projector made by Midget Movie Ltd, Garford Street. London E14 which probably comes from around 1932.

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Carlo Saino
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I have just found one at the NATIONAL SCIENCE AND MEDIA MUSEUM
BRADFORD:

The Midget Movie Camera and Projector Collection: NMeM - Cinematography Object Name: cine camera-projector Maker: Midget Movie Limited Place Made: London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom Materials: bakelite; glass; white metal (unknown); brass (copper, zinc alloy)
Measurements: overall: 110 mm x 55 mm x 116 mm,Description: The Midget Movie Camera and Projector. Plastic body movie camera and projector for 9.5mm. Fitted with a simple lens with rotating plate with four apertures. Oscillating shutter, claw drive, concentric feed and takeup reels.. Built in 6v lamp for projection. Hand turned. Simple wire frame finder. Darkroom loaded. Midget Movie Ltd.
Object Number: 1990-5036/3174
Credit Line: The Kodak Collection at the National Media Museum, Bradford

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Maurice Leakey
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The very earliest cinematographers used dual camera/projectors like Lumiere's CINEMATOGRAPHE, and there was the BIOKAM, and the BIRTAC of Bert Acres.
Later, for 9.5mm, was the SCREENUS, the MIDAS, and the CAMPRO. The latter accepted the standard Pathe chargers.
http://www.pathefilm.uk/95gear/95gearcampro.htm

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Carlo Saino
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interesting, the last three I have them all, actually I have four, because there are two versions of Campro, Campro and Campro MK1.
It is interesting to note how this type of machines that are commonly called camjectors, developed in a short period from 1930 to 1933 and only in England in London.

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Luigi Castellitto
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Interesting, I had never seen it before. I knew the other camera/projctor models, not this.
Carlo, it work?

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Carlo Saino
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Luigi, no unfortunately it doesn'work, the internal chassis in zamak is broken, I'll try to fix it.

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Trevor Adams
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https://imgur.com/a/js6l8KE

Inside the wee beast!

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