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Topic: Elmo Mania, GS1200 Xenon vs GS1200 STd

Tony Milman
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1336
From: United Kingdom
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 26, 2004 12:51 PM

Well, having seen the GS Xenon at close quarters the picture quality overall compared to the standard halogen model just blew me away. Awesome.

Now I am not really looking to debate which is best because everyone will have a view (Including Mr Newell who thinks all Elmo owners have 6 fingers and marry their sisters) but I wondered why people have both machines and how do they use them? I saw on the serial number list that this was the case and wondered about it. Is it just a case of having a back up or do you twin Elmo owners actually use both?

Tony

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1954
From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 27, 2004 02:33 AM

I use both although my 'xenon' is actually an arc lamp conversion model. With xenons the lamp is left on permanently and it doesn't like going on and off - something that seriously reduces the lamp life.

For running older extracts there seems little point in using a xenon when a standard model will do the job. In fact, there's actually little point in using a GS-1200 for a lot of the older material.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 27, 2004 09:59 AM

My thoughts exactly after having come full circle!
I just threaded up reel 3 of the Exorcist. All I can say is that with the standard GS the picture was bright, sharp, and the images...terrifying! Once you are immersed in the film you will not be thinking...gee I bet this would look great on the Xenon. You just sit back and enjoy!

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 27, 2004 11:56 AM

Well Tony, as it was my machine you saw I think you know my views on that score. I think that my std GS is still in the cupboard in case I need to pinch a part out of it if the xenon breaks down.
Seriously, if I want to show some movies it's the xenon which comes out for the purpose. I like the nore natural picture that the xenon achieves due to it's neutral light. Also I wonder how many people know that the pressure plate on the xenon is the actual aperture, whereas the aperture size is controlled by the rear plate on the GS std. They redesigned the lens assay on the xenon/pressure plate and gate area on the xenon.
This gives well defined sharp edges on the screen and again helps to increase apparent contrast. [Smile]

As for brightness, I still tend to use the machine on it's lower setting for home use but that is still brighter than the GS std. [Smile]

I may actually be selling my other std machine in the very near future.

Kev.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Steven Sigel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Massachusetts
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 28, 2004 08:49 AM

There's no comparison between Xenon and halogen lamps - in super 8 or 16mm... It's like comparing a Porche to a Geo Metro....

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1954
From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 28, 2004 09:49 AM

I never did like Porsche.

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