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Topic: Standard/Regular 8 sound projector
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 04, 2005 11:49 AM
The only other R8 sound projector that comes to mind is the Kodak sound 8. Based on the 16mm Pageant design, this is a superb machine but, as Tim points out, it uses a valve amplifier, so replacement valves may be hard or impossible to find. Based on my experience, the sound is much better from the Eumig machines, but the picture from the sound 8 was superb.
-------------------- The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection, Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted June 05, 2005 01:01 PM
Hi Chris, and others,
I actually have acquired a couple of Eumig Mark S models, but both are in pretty poor shape really. I'll see if I can make one good machine out of them first, before lashing out any more cash. But I hear what you say. The Mark S is a dedicated standard 8 machine, though I'm open to positive suggestions like you describe. What I don't want is a compromise. I use an Elmo ST1200HD (bought from Kev F) for super 8, and an Elmo E-80 for standard 8. Though this is a silent machine, it is a work of art, the standard of engineering and workmanship is a joy to behold.
The S710 sounds like it might be the answer if I can't get what I want out of the S machines. I'm pretty well versed in troubleshooting electronics of yesteryear, as my early days were spent in electronics of the era. I still have stocks of valves and components including hi-stab resistors etc. So - time and patience will tell.
Cheers,
Dave.
-------------------- Dave.
Valves and celluloid - a great combination! Early technology rules OK!
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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted June 06, 2005 01:11 AM
BTW, Chris, is your S 710 capable of synchronised sound in Standard 8?
Am I right in thinking that if there is only one sound head, it is probably only displaced by the 18 frames required for Super 8 sound, instead of the 54 frames required for Standard 8 sound? If this is the case, sure, it will play Standard 8 sound, but will be dreadfully out of sync.
However, if the sound head can be plugged into 2 different positions, then fine - otherwise I'm afraid it's a non-starter.
Tim, excellent and informative article!! The Eumig 800 series of which you speak, - how does the machine compensate for the 2 different frame offsets between Super 8 and Standard 8?
Many thanks,
Dave.
-------------------- Dave.
Valves and celluloid - a great combination! Early technology rules OK!
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