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Tom Photiou
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From: Plymouth U.K
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posted August 16, 2005 01:12 PM

Heres one my Brother and i always agree to dis-agree on.
I've always enjoyed a good action packed trailer, particulaly in Scope and especially the extended ones i.e, 100ft+.
Where as i like to buy many and join them to films my Brother will only buy for films we actually own. He always said he can never see the point of trailers for films we dont own or cant buy [Confused]

. Working onthat principle film dealers would sell very few.
I've now amased around 150 trailers in all formats and pretty much all subjects and always enjoy looking at them.
The best ones (for me) are those which actualy make up a mini cutdown of the film, Saving Private ryan being one of the best.
For my little ones i've made up a 600ft spool containing some of the best special promo's for Disney films. Being cramed with songs and action it does keep them hooked for half an hour.
How do some of you use your trailers? [Wink]

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Colin Robert Hunt
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posted August 16, 2005 01:47 PM

I Tom. I thought I was the only one who buys loads of trailers. Saving Private Ryan is yes one of my favourite trailers and I like titainic as well. My main interest is those epics of the 50's and 60's so the David Lean trailers for his films are in my collection. I like the 4min plus running time trailers like his Lawrence of Arabia very well made and looks great on the big screen. I think the trailers to El Cid Ben Hur sell the films.. Mutiny on the Bounty again very good. I think it's also a good way of at least having some of the film even if you cannot afford the feature. I try to reel up trailers in the decade they were made as maximum of say 20min some only aprox 10 min it depends. Have a copy of Tess and Cat People which are top quality from the 80's. Like the old B&W trailers as well. If I see a trailer and I like it then I look out mostly secondhand. They always go done well at film shows at home. I have a stack now to reel up bought cheaply at the Derann open day. Also go for the 10min production trailers, have some of these like the musical Scrooge and Logans run. Last one bought was David Lean on Doctor shavago. (Think its spelt right) All the best.

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Osi Osgood
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posted August 16, 2005 02:51 PM

I only happen to have one reel of trailers, that is a composite of the best of those "Red Fox" trailer reels, however, with Red Fox, the quality of the trailer can be quite marginal, even when first released, (on super 8), however, I have a a nice little 10 minute reel of them from the 70's ranging from "Land That Time Forgot" to "The Posieden Adventure". It's even got a very funny "What's Up Doc" trailer. These were the T.V. ads, so the originals were no doubt 16mm, which is why the sharpness is only mariginal at times, but still, a nice trip down memory lane!

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James N. Savage 3
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posted August 16, 2005 03:32 PM

I have some of the best "digest" trailers on my super 8 Sci-Fi trailer reel, released by LA Films in the 80's. My two favorites are "Outland" and "Blade Runner". Both trailers, especially Outland, are long and basically tell the whole story of the movie (without spoiling the ending). They also manage to capture the mood and atmosphere of the movie by including the original film score (unlike many of today's trailers). Blade Runner even includes some of the narration from the movie by Harrison Ford.

There was an excellent trailer for Forest Gump back in the 90's that I remember seeing at the movie theater that was long and basically a mini-digest of the movie. I'd love to see that released on S-8.

Nick.

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 16, 2005 03:41 PM

Hello Colin and Osi, I to also try to collect some of the rarer ones. As well as the popular stuff i also have a few odd ball trailers such as a scope teaser for Kellys Hero's, a very generous length scope of the raven with Boris Karloff and Vincent price and the quality is superb, another rare one is The good the bad and the Ugly. For a good 200foot of entertainment i've joined the battle of Britain with Zulu, Both in scope and both full of action.
I also enjoy the 200ft production or making of shorts And have also made some good 200footers out of scope trailers which are good warm up reels mainly for myself.
One thing i do note with trailers is that you rarely get sub standard. In fact trailers tend to be more up on quality than many feature film releases.Wonder if any one may be able to explain that. Clearly with the length of film i suspect its a lot easier to produce.

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Trevor Adams
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posted August 16, 2005 05:35 PM

I agree Tom,if my Marketing Film features were technically of the same quality as their trailers,I'd be over the moon!
I've collected up old trailers and adverts(like PG Tips)onto reels.Most are fading away!For some reason(best known to my unconcious self)I've jointed 4:3 and scope trailers in a higgelty piggelty fashion!!My Fair Lady is the best one and Guns for San Sebastion is the worst........
On super 8mm values-in NZ they are seemingly obsolete and valueless-so I'll hang onto them!! [Smile]

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 17, 2005 12:09 PM

James are your sci fi trailers scope? I think it was the late 80's and early 920's where trailers seem to go right downhil, Hollywood went through a stage of releasing trailers in the cinema which seem to show more shots of the Directors and actors being all happy and big headed with clips of the movies only playing short roles, thankfully those days are gone and were short lived.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted August 18, 2005 05:28 PM

Hi Tom

I'm also a keen trailer collector - I must have hundreds of them on 50', 100', 200' and 400' reels, not to mention 16mm reels too. I know some people have a similar attitude to your brother but I don't really understand it. I suppose they feel that trailers are simply advertisements of films, rather than an art form in their own right. Although it's useful to be able to preview a feature screening with a trailer, it's also nice to own a trailer for a film that you are unlikely to screen in any other form. And of course there are films you wouldn't want complete, but have entertaining trailers.

I like to find rarities such as many of the Thunderbird reels, Some are relatively common, but others (and there were large numbers released) don't seem to have been imported by UK dealers, so are very scarce. The same applies to some of the Jeff and Canterbury releases.

I think the art has gone downhill in the last five years or so, however. I'm really getting fed up with the countless flashes of light accompanied by crashing/thudding sounds! Can't they think of any other way of creating excitement? The other 'stock' technique is the succession of slow fade-ins and fade-outs, to try and create a moody feel. Although I bought the trailers to the first two 'Lord of the Rings' films, all the fading in/out put me off the third. Anyone examining a Super 8 print of this would probably find that half the frames were either completely black or completely transparent!

Adrian

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 19, 2005 02:48 PM

Adrian, Thats all very true, BTW, did any of you see the TV documentry some time ago about the guy who's un-mistakable voice is on just about every trailer? What a fasinating way to make a very welthy living.

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