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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted September 18, 2008 08:25 PM

I hope I'm not being redundant, but I have a question about a film stock.

the stock is:

Eastman, followed by a circle, square and "X", followed by a "19"

Is this a unmarked L.P.P. stock and if so, when was it manufactured?

I ask as I want to date this print as well.

Thank you.

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David Kilderry
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted September 18, 2008 09:56 PM

Osi, it is 1982 and would be SP. SP was marked on the edge in the 1970's but vanished leading up to LPP in 1983.

David

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Osi Osgood
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posted September 19, 2008 10:01 AM

So, it can be said that kodak SP was not always labeled as SP, as this print nowhere on the print says SP?

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David Kilderry
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posted September 20, 2008 05:57 AM

Osi, in the late 1970's the 7378 and 7379 Eastman stocks replaced the older SP, but despite promising lower fade characteristics, they have all faded on me just like SP, so I group them all together.

LPP in 1983 was the real breakthrough, I have yet to see a faded LPP print. It is possible some LPP came though in 1982 (I have not seen it), but it would have carried the LPP letters.

David

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Mark Todd
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posted September 20, 2008 06:44 AM

Hi David, yes there is a fair bit of 1982 LPP about, acetate and poly/estar.
But they did have low fade available for 40 odd years almost by then of course KC, imagine if all those lovely films made it on to that.
Imagine super 8 films if LPP had come out in 75 say, wow !!!! or they ahd used a KC process for super 8
Best Mark.

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David Kilderry
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posted September 21, 2008 01:28 AM

Yes Mark I have heard of LPP in 82, but at the theatre I worked at it first appeared in 83. It was a six theatre complex running a good deal of 70mm. Perhaps 16mm stock was available first; that was mostly slit for Super 8 too I understand.

I always try and grab Kodachrome and IB Tech prints of the travelogues I collect on 16mm, the quality is still amazing.

David

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