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Topic: Possible trouble with film cleaner????
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 27, 2010 03:18 PM
I must ask again, (i know this will probably bore some of you as its been asked so many times), Since January im on a mission to check and clean every film we have, and there are over 300 in all,so its going to take some time, i am using film gaurd, (big tall poly bottle). I fully understand the consequences of using too much of this product, & i have always used either 222 or Deranns film cleaner. here is what i do, small clean cotton hankerchief wrapped tight around my hand so i have a good grip between thumb and finger. i take the bottle and spray only a tiny tiny amount onto the thumb part of the cloth and one tiny amount onto the finger, i gently rub the two together and allow a few seconds for it soak into the cloth to take away any excess, we are talking one single quick squirt of the trigger, Using elmo rewind arms i start after the acadamy leader (this way threading isnt to slippery) and winde the film through not topping up until around 300-400feet. once i get to the end i rewind the film back thru a clean dry part of the cotton (not pressing hard) in order to take away any excess fluid, being a little firmer with my grip toward the start of the reel which takes a lot more of the cleaner.I cannot really use any less because if i did, (in my opinion) i wouldnt be putting enough on. My problem is this, i have probably cleaned and viewed around 117 movies of various lengths along with a lot of trailers, & despite being extra careful by using as little amount as possible and viewing ASAP after cleaning, usually straight away or the day after, i am now finding i have a bit of a problem with start up speed, a lot of awful warble, as though the flywheel cant pick up speed due to slipping it can take 5-10-15 seconds or more of projecting before the sound steadys and even then there is warble on some films. I have always cleaned the film path after every show and especially now with all the cleaning i also clean all the rollers and capstand with the neccessary cleaners and must say that in over 30 years of projecting and cleaning films i have never had this problem. I am hoping to get a good proffesional MOT on the machine by a top chap, (BP)but im thinking, should i stop using this product and switch top either film renew(if i can get it) or Deranns cleaner which some people say is dry but it did the trick tonight without any problems on 200 footer i showed and i didnt have the start up proble for more than a couple of seconds?
Now then, without any fisty cuffs, what are your opinions on this please? I really dont want to get a once in a life time service only to have this problem again afterwards, should i continue with this product or am i doing someting wrong?
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Dan Lail
Film God
Posts: 2110
From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted September 27, 2010 03:34 PM
Tom,
Thems fightin' words! Just kidding of course.
I have been using the same approach with Filmguard, but I apply more than one spray. Th cloth I use is white cotton tee shirt material. I've never had an over saturation problem either. After about five years of using Filmguard, no warbling problem has occurred(except maybe me) in any of my projectors. These include: 16mm B&H 1500 series, Elmo ST-1200s, GS 1200s, ST-800s, Eumigs and a Fujca STD 8,. Have you done a comparison with treated and non-treated films?
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