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Aaron Ranieri
Junior
Posts: 5
From: England
Registered: Aug 2011

posted August 02, 2011 08:28 PM

Hi, I have recently bought a sankyo super cm 30 as I am a Film student interested in working with different types of cameras. The only problem is I dont know much about these cameras. What film does it require and where can I buy it online to be delivered to the UK? Thanks

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted August 03, 2011 03:30 AM

Hi,

when it's a "Sankyo Super CM-300", then you've gotten yourself a Super8-camera. The film-format is explained in the wikipedia here and on several other webpages. (Simply use google)

Super8-Films are made by Kodak:
Kodak's Spotlight on Super 8
And there are some companies that split, perforate and fill 35mm slide-films or negative-films into Super8-carts, e.g.:
Cinevia
Wittner-Cinetec
Pro8mm
Spectra Film and Video

You can buy Super8-films in the UK at least here:
BlueCinetech
Stanley Productions
Widescreen-Centre
You can probably also order directly from Kodak-UK (where you might get a student discount). Boots also used to have Super8-films in most of their stores. However the current status is unclear (some stores still seem to stock Kodak's E100D, other at least can order Kodak-products, while other claim that Boots doesn't support Super8 any more).

When you're looking for repair/telecine/used projectors/... take a look at the Super8wiki.

Jörg

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Aaron Ranieri
Junior
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From: England
Registered: Aug 2011

posted August 03, 2011 03:56 AM

Thank you very much for your help, going to order some film now. Excited to try out this camera!

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Juergen Lossau
Expert Film Handler

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From: Hamburg, Germany
Registered: Mar 2005

posted August 03, 2011 04:08 AM

There is a new website with a lot of informations for Newbies: www.super8film.tv www.super8film.tv

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Mark L Barton
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 621
From: Bristol, South Glos, England
Registered: Mar 2009

posted August 03, 2011 05:28 AM

Hi, where in the UK are you. In Bristol with have Bristol Cine Sales http://www.aavon.com/bristolcine.html and GenevaStop http://www.genevastop.co.uk/ cheers and welcome to the hobby.

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted August 03, 2011 06:48 AM

Hi,

is Bristol Cine Sales still in business? A quote from their webpage: "...At the moment the demand for super 8 film is rising! Kodak tell us that they are processing more Kodachrome movie than 10 years ago. We normally stock the K40, Tri-X and the new Ektachrome 125asa VNF film in in super 8 and Kodachrome 40 in 16mm single perf 100ft. loads. The other 16mm films available are Kodachrome 25asa, Tri-X and Plus-X..."

Kodachrome? VNF? Plus-X? Strange!

Jörg

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William Fleming
Master Film Handler

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From: United Kingdom
Registered: Jul 2011

posted August 03, 2011 11:35 AM

I also emailed Bristol Cine sales several weeks ago and never even got a reply :/

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Aaron Ranieri
Junior
Posts: 5
From: England
Registered: Aug 2011

posted August 03, 2011 06:54 PM

Hi thanks for the replies. I am in Suffolk. Work at boots and checked their computer system and dont stock super-8 anymore which is a shame going to order some online thanks again. Also if anybody has any examples of super-8 films they have made and would like to share please post.

[ August 03, 2011, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: Aaron Ranieri ]

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Aaron Ranieri
Junior
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From: England
Registered: Aug 2011

posted August 04, 2011 07:13 AM

The person I bought the camera off on ebay has said that they have a movie light to go with it that they want to get rid of and said I can have it if I just pay for packaging. Is it worth it, or is it not needed?

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted August 04, 2011 08:42 AM

Yes and no. [Big Grin]

Yes: There are several situations where there's not enough light when shoting indoors. Hence you would need an additional lamp.
No: The bulb most likely produces "tungsten light" and there's most likely no way to add a filter. This is a problem as most currently available colour reversal films are balanced for "daylight". And putting a blue wratten 80A in front of your camera's lens to "convert" tungsten to daylight drastically reduces the amount of light that reaches the film. ... However when it's a 500W or 1000W halogen lamp, you should get more light than consumed by the filter.)
So when it's just a few coins I would say "yes".

Jörg

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Aaron Ranieri
Junior
Posts: 5
From: England
Registered: Aug 2011

posted August 05, 2011 04:41 AM

Thanks for the help again. Just unearthed a Sankyo ES-33 and a Bolex 102 MTC Insta-projector in my parents garage so more stuff to play around with.

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