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Topic: Mould! A Question of help
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Tom Photiou
Film God
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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 12, 2012 02:53 PM
Mould ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
My films for the past 12 years have been stored and looked after on shelves in a room in what would be to most people a basement. My home is on three levels, Ground and upper ground and under the house there is a garage and a room directly below my living room, my movie room is carpeted with a central heated radiator, (it use to be a spare bedroom),No window,just a normal sized pvc door, (left open when not in use to allow any air in. Tempreture wise it is the coolest place in summer and the warmer room in the winter. Ive now noticed on films not viewed for over 3-5 years that mould has sneaked onto some of the films. Once cleaned with film guard and viewed they are fine.
I keep them in this room becuse of its cooler tempreture to help combat any fade, however, can someone tell me any other way to combat the mould, it doesnt affect anything else in the room. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Tom Photiou
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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 14, 2012 02:09 PM
Thanks for your replys, Ive got a few shots here Hugh, its a bit of an unusal set up, the front of the house is the usual two floors from the outside, we are three doors down from the top of the avenue, walk to the T junction at the top and its a steep hill so when you go to the rear of the propery its on three levels, so, the film room is, at its screen end, below ground, the projector end is a main support wall, through that wall is the garage and its doors are at ground level at the rear, so its a bit of both, I understand moisture must obviously be present in the winter but the tempreture is always warmer in winter, (still cold though) and coolest in summer, (Dark all year round to, yayyy films all the year round)
This shows the internal wall,(ajoining the neigbours house which is now a living area below ground), so this wall is well insulated. The films are kept a few inches away from the wall and the far left plastic boxes are empty and act as a spacer.
The black painted wall behind the screen area is a false plasterboard wall, this was done prior to me owning the house so hopfully insulates what is the main wall below ground at the front of the house. This room is directly below my living room
This shows the rear of the film/play room and through that fixed pain window behind the picture is the garage and the rear of the house basement is all at ground level to the rear,
I have used this room like this for the best part of 12 years, i think this years wet winter hasnt helped at all. I tend to leave the pvc door open when the rooms not in use.
Would an opening window instead of a fixed window between the film room and garage help i wonder as the garage is well vented?
The films affected are mostly those that havnt been projected for over 3-5 years, They certainlt clean up easy, although the card boxes i suspect also hold any damp or moisture. I shall certainly be looking for a nother roon upstairs for the movies. I do pride myself as we all do on keeping my movies well maintained. I do wish i had the talents to make this like some of your cinemas ive seen on here ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Thanks in advance.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 02:43 PM
Hi Tom,that looks like a cosy set up there,just the job for a few
of the boys and a crate of ale and films on tap! I would think
that the black wall behind your screen is dry lined and I couldn't
say if the room was "tanked" or not without chipping off a small
amount of plaster to reveal if it had been rendered out or not.
When I have done this work in the past,one of the solutions that
I have used to good effect is to "sandwich" a layer of bitumen
betwwen the layers of waterproofed cement,then coated out
with a plaster undercoat and two coat plaster.Dry lining is fine
but you don't know whats going on behind it if not done correctly.The main thing you do need is some form of ventilation,a chimney is perfect as it allows the air in the room to be changed continually,because we all exude moisture and
it condenses on the coldest surface,so the need of ventilation
is essential.I would go for the motorised type,like in your shower
that will change the air regularly for you,and is relatively cheap
to run.
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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted September 14, 2012 03:32 PM
Tom,
I have that same picture of The Legends sitting in the cinema with Bogey, Monroe, Elvis ,and James Dean. Mine came as a 1,000 piece puzzle and my wife and I took 3 weeks to get it put together. I got it matted and framed and it is now mounted on one wall of my home cinema. A great picture, particulary for the home cinema.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 14, 2012 04:06 PM
Hi Paul, it is an ideal film room, this picture came framed and actually plugs into the mains and lights up in several places. tomorrow i;ll put another image on here,
Hugh, thanks for the info, i shall get some ventilation put in. Good advice thanks.
It is a great litle set up, i am in the proccess of tidying it up, cleaning every inch and throwing some of the kids old junk out. I have had a few lager evenings with some workmates. In the past it played host to many of my childrens birthday film shows, often as many as 15 children all laughing at Tom & Jerry, warner cartoons and even coal black and de sebben dwarfs. Today thursday evenings is mine and my Brothers film evening.And im often happy to sit in there for an hour or two of an evening,cleaning, repairing,maintaining and viewing. Its my perfect winde down
BTW, the little lights around the window frame are Texas chainsaw leatherface headlights ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) They were bought back from from the USA,my Brother goes over every year and brings back someting for this room, there excellent,when plugged in the lights are quite eerree
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Rob Young.
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From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 15, 2012 05:35 AM
Tom, I had a similiar problem a few years back in a house we lived in.
It sounds like condensation mould. Cool is good for the films, but any moisture in the air will condense onto cool surfaces (film boxes, the films, etc.) and without ventilation mould will form.
Of the films affected, cleaning with Filmguard restored them to new and there weren't any adverse effects (that was about 8-9 years ago).
To me, the only proper solution was to use a de-humidifier in the room. You'll need one that you can set to the desired humidity level (say 50%) and let it switch itself on and off to collect any excess moisture in the room - actually with one in place it's better to keep the door shut as otherwise it just collects moisture from the rest of the house.
A decent one will cost you around £200.00 but these days they are quite compact and apart from having to empty the water tank every few days, they are a great solution for this type of thing, and a good investment to protect your collection.
Also, I'd get a hygrometer; looks like a small digital clock (should cost about a tenner) and when placed in the room shows you the room temperature / moisture level - very useful.
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