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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted April 06, 2012 12:53 PM

Could someone perhaps give a history on here about what I call the deluxe super 8 sound cameras that, as far as I know, came out after the heyday of super 8. I see them occassionally on ebay and boy, do they go for a high price!

Is the image that they give on super even sharper then what the standard supwer 8 cameras gave in the 60's and 70's?

What was the best camera?
Were any actually made with a scope lense on them?
Were any actually made with stereo recording sound heads on them?

I thank all ahead of time for thier imput!

OSI

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John Davis
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From: Dunfermline, Fife, UK
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posted April 06, 2012 02:08 PM

Hi Osi,
this is new one to me - do you have any links to ebay listings, I'm very curious

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Alexander Vandeputte
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From: Belgium
Registered: Nov 2009

posted April 06, 2012 02:30 PM

Not all the top end cameras could record sound, some were silent.
As for the best camera, well the jury is still out... It is like the 'best projector' debate. Each camera will have it's own pros and cons. I personally like and use the Canon 814XLS and 1014XLS the most. Good optics, reliable mechanics and accurate light metering make them very good for typical 'run and gun' style super 8 shooting.
For professional use there are the Beaulieu and Leicina's with interchangeable optics and all manual exposure control.

Top end super 8 cameras that still command top prices are:

Nikon R10 (silent)
Leicina special from Leica (silent)
Beaulieu 4008 (silent)
Beaulieu 6008 and 7008 PRO (sound)
Canon 814 XLS and 1014 XLS (sound)

To my knowledge there were no cameras that could record stereo.
Scope lenses are always attachments, so no camera ever comes with a built in scope lens.

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Claus Harding
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From: Washington DC
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posted April 06, 2012 06:24 PM

To add to Alexander's post, the Braun Nizo sound cams were (potentially) lovely, yet as the early 80es wore on, their top model, the 6080, apparently became something of an albatross. Why? The company went down the drain, and quality control went with it.

I had three Nizo sound cameras and they ran beautifully and had lovely Schneider optics. The main issue, to this day, is that they ran on one little rubber motor belt which, once it broke, was buried beneath circuit boards, requiring outrageous repairs.

I currently have a Leicina Special and a Nizo Professional. They are not quiet, nor are they particularly lightweight, but they are strong little beasts and they will last to the end of my Super-8 shooting days [Smile]

Claus.

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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted April 07, 2012 12:57 PM

I asked this as I'm curious to conduct a little experiment, which involves another question ...

Would you be able to sync any super 8 cameras to shoot one frame at a time, as a frame is projected? I was thinking about doing a little experiment with a DVD scene, "projected" (so to speak) on a large flat screen computer monitor, (excellent photographic quality)?

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Rudy Velez Jr.
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From: New York City
Registered: Jul 2012

posted May 26, 2013 03:49 PM

Is there any place that offers new belts for Nizo 6080 or repairs this cameras?

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Oscar Iniesta
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From: Madrid
Registered: Aug 2009

posted May 26, 2013 03:59 PM

Osi, are you trying to get a kinescope? The new tv screens are ideal for this. A trailer of a famous last year movie, was done with this thecnique here in Spain with excellent results. But many super 8 fans don´t want to hear about this while others find as natural as all 35mm movies are done the last years. I am one of those romantic guys who don´t like the idea. But sometimes I ask to myself why I loved It´s a Bugs Life.

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