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Laksmi Breathwaite
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 - posted August 06, 2013 11:57 AM      Profile for Laksmi Breathwaite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can I use Mineral oil to Lubricate Film ? Hey Gerald What about it drying up or being left on the film ? And what or why use the Pec Pads or Alcohal Swabs. If there is excess oil, that doesn't absorb, will it harm or hurt projector or film? Can I just use soft cleaning cloths? http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006228

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted August 06, 2013 12:47 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Laksmi, if you are at the point of wanting to try a home made remedy for lubricating films, rather than using a commercial film product, I still stand by my decade old recommendation of using Armorall Protectant wipes. I have consistently found that these wipes will clean and lubricate films quite well, without damaging the film or the projector. The wipes put a thin coating of silicone on the film. Many films that I have aquired have been very dry and shrunk and will shudder through the projector, but a couple of applications of the wipes during re-winding really seems to make them run smoothly.

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Mark Todd
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Sound very good Paul.

Do you know if you can get these in the uk please by any chance.

Thanks Mark.

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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 - posted August 06, 2013 04:39 PM      Profile for Laksmi Breathwaite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds great Paul can I get it at Wallmart? Do you know if it has to be wiped off real good or left on. What about this stuff Mineral Oil Gerald claims is good?

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Paul Adsett
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Mark, yes ArmorAll products are available in the UK in the automotive section of most supermarkets.
Laksmi, available at WalMart and Target and Publix in the auto sections. About $5.99 for 25 wipes.
ArmorAll sells a number of different wipes , some for glass, some for leather etc so make sure it says :

ArmorAll original Protectant wipes

http://www.armorall.com/products/original-protectant-wipes/?select=wipes

It is in a yellow plastic container.
The wipes should be very damp, but NOT dripping with solution when you pull them out of the container If the wipes are too wet just squeeze some of the solution back into the container. If the wipes are too dry shake the container to move some of the solution back into the wipes. The wipes are lint free.
I use one wipe to apply one or 2 back and fore application to a few 400ft or 600ft reels while fast rewinding on the projector. I do not wipe it off after application, but I do run it through the projector immediately after application. Usually a couple of applications will lubricate the film and greatly reduce film shudder through the projector.
You will find that the sound improves noticeably after a couple of applications, and the silicone lubrication will greatly reduce sound head wear.
I do a reapplication about once a year on my favourite prints. Keeps them nice and supple.
ArmorAll states that their product 'provides protection against fading". Too bad I did'nt start using it on my Eastman prints 40 years ago! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted August 07, 2013 02:30 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here you are Mark.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Armor-All-45025EN-Armorall-Cleaning/dp/B000Y8H4MU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375860085&sr=8-1&keywords=armor+all+wipes

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Mark Todd
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Thanks Maurice.

Best Mark.

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Paul Adsett
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I do'nt think that the link that Maurice provided is the same product that I use. For one thing the Armorall Protectant wipes here in the USA are advertised for protecting and enhancing the finish of plastics etc, not for cleaning. The ArmorAll protectant wipes produce a very shiny surface on car dashboards etc, and they also produce a slippery finish. Not sure the Orange wipe is the same thing.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted August 07, 2013 08:47 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul
Here is another. Is this to which you are referring?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ArmorAll-Armorall-Dashboard-Wipes-25/dp/B0001OZH2Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375882757&sr=8-2&keywords=armor+all+wipes

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Graham Ritchie
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 - posted August 07, 2013 02:35 PM      Profile for Graham Ritchie   Email Graham Ritchie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul

Is this the right stuff which is available here locally
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Graham.

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Paul Adsett
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Yes, that's it Graham.

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Graham Ritchie
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Thanks Paul

Will get some tonight.

Graham. [Smile]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted August 08, 2013 03:07 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul
Did you see my second link to UK product?

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Barry Fritz
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 - posted August 08, 2013 10:29 AM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Isn't ArmorAll silicone? On the 16mm forum, silicone has been discussed on many threads and the consensus there is that it should not be used on film.

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Paul Adsett
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Of course Barry, everyone has their own opinions on the subject of film cleaning and lubrication. I am just relaying, for what its worth, my own experience with ArmorAll, which does in fact have some silicone content. Individual experience may vary. [Smile]

Maurice, that second link is probably it, although it is called a different product name.

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Barry Fritz
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 - posted August 08, 2013 03:27 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, I would say that a decade of experience with the product would be a pretty good endorsement. Most references I have seen have been to the use of the silicone cloths that are used on firearms, and not ArmorAll.

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