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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted July 28, 2014 09:16 AM

Hi, just wondered if anyone knows anything ,i see some dealers have brand new prints available of films long deleted and wanted to know is it possible that any of these new and sealed prints can suffer from color fade ,or vs syndrome even though sealed as they are still going to be several years old

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
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posted July 28, 2014 09:18 AM

Yes Nigel, it is very much a possibility that the prints will have faded even if still sealed. I have purchased some new sealed shorts in the past and some were very good in colour while others had faded slightly.

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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted July 28, 2014 09:23 AM

Thanks andrew i suspected that could be the case.

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Brad Kimball
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Highland Mills, NY USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 28, 2014 01:24 PM

Be wary of prints listed as new and still in original shrink-wrap. I've bought several over the years and found they're lack of exposure to air has indeed shrunk them thus rendering them near useless. Film need to breathe and 30-40 years in an airtight environment does them absolutely no good. Same with projectors. If it's never been used chances are the mechanical elements are going to be in not the best condition and the unit(s) may be in need of immediate and costly repair/replacement

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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
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posted July 28, 2014 03:08 PM

Yes makes you wonder where they have come from stored somewhere for many years no doubt.

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted July 30, 2014 11:42 AM

Not only that, but I have run into"brand new in shrink wrap" prints and have found that they were recently shrink wrapped and not the original shrink wrap and in fact, used.

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Mark Howard
Film Handler

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From: Manchester, U.K.
Registered: Jul 2007

posted August 01, 2014 08:38 AM

I bought a few sealed Disney 200ft extracts from a closing camera shop a couple of years ago. They were absolutely brand new, very smelly and very red. Nice boxes but a proper waste of money.

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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted August 01, 2014 10:38 AM

Thats the trouble mark if brought of a dealer and the print was like this would you get money back ,could be risky i think

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Dominique De Bast
Film God

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From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013

posted August 01, 2014 12:39 PM

Mark, the smell can be removed but less can be done if it is very red. For low red prints, I am still using a filter I bought very cheap from a member of this forum. In some cases, it almost corrects completely the picture, in others it improves a little bit but in severe case it is not strong enough. I can imagine you can find more professionnals filters but of course at higher prices, so have to own a lot of red prints or valuables ones to consider such investment.

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Adrian Winchester
Film God

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From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004

posted August 02, 2014 01:15 PM

It's a nice thought that a sealed print might be protected from fade, but the only protection seems to be a freezer. Shrink wrapping won't help keep a film cooler!

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