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Topic: What's the hurry? (Bogey and Hepburn on Helium!)
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted July 14, 2017 11:56 AM
Steve, I'm totally baffled ...
I have that Viacom release as well, so now, you have me curious. I'll pull out that last reel, (I combined my reel to fit on less reels, so that section is definitely on the last reel), and see if mine has that same problem.
How has yours held up, color-wise. Mine is just the slightest bit off, probably a 9 out of 10 and certainly most watchable.
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Steve Klare
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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted July 14, 2017 12:08 PM
Hey Osi,
My color is a little bit red-shifted, not too bad. In terms of sharpness, color and sound I have worse prints, but then again a quite a few better ones, too. Then again as features go it was a cheapy, so I can't complain too much!
It's the wackiest problem I've ever seen showing films: obviously something to do with the print, but how and then again why?
There is really nothing wrong with my print a case of Gordon's won't cure!
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Steve Klare
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posted July 16, 2017 06:43 AM
That's what it'll come down to, Graham, and I suspect it will happen on the other machine too. What makes it interesting is trying to figure out the nature of the fault.
I figure all the way back to the camera original, that scene was filmed on exactly so may frames. All the way forward to my print, they're standing there all lined up waiting for their big moment in my gate.
It's not like they can change speed by bunching up together: as soon as they got to that first sprocket there would be a derailment and the machine would choke on 'em! Besides, even if this could sneak through, a movie projector is not an inches per second machine like a tape deck. It's a frames per second machine, so it would still pass through in the same time.
The only (sort of) logical thing I could ever imagine is there are actually deleted frames in this sequence, but how? who? why?
It's not the kind of defect that happens by accident. I can't imagine in a major motion picture with a big enough budget to film in Africa with major stars, that they would have let something like that just slide through if that's what they got from that day's shooting either.
-as I said: it's an interesting one! (-Not like I'm going to "fix" it!)
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Osi Osgood
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posted July 17, 2017 12:19 PM
I would bet that Derann issue of this print (printed by Derann and not a bunch of copies Derann bought out from another source), would tend to have a better image quality, usually low fade AND sharper as a general rule.
just for trivias sake ...
There was also an EXTREMELY rare printing of this film as a super 8 optcial sound feature! I believe that CHC cinema has a print of this optical feature on thier lists a few years back and i wish that i had bought it, just for the rarities quality of it, (and, looking back, i bet it was sharper as well). ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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...best bet to confirm its the print is to run it through another projector. 
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