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Paul Adsett
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 - posted July 17, 2018 10:29 AM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am sure this has been posted before, but for anyone who has not seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVc_sb2gILE

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted July 17, 2018 12:21 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm bettin that this little super 8 films would bring in BIG bucks. Oh, not thousands or hundreds, but a heck of a lot for such a little film!

I wonder how this was marketed? I mean, was this something that came out in the first year of WDHM's?

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Brian Fretwell
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 - posted July 17, 2018 02:44 PM      Profile for Brian Fretwell   Email Brian Fretwell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That looks like a Eumig 800 series projector the family is using so must be late 70's or after.

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted July 17, 2018 03:18 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes I noticed that too Brian, definitely a Eumig 800.

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Chip Gelmini
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 - posted July 17, 2018 03:24 PM      Profile for Chip Gelmini     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey guys

May I remind you to learn how to download from YouTube and create great dvd reels for video projection. Even if a 36” flat screen tv is under your screen down near the floor and film goes on the main screen you can run footage like this much easier than the grand idea of owning a copy on super 8 that is next to impossible to find.......

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Bill Brandenstein
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 - posted July 17, 2018 04:14 PM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The opening animation shots of Donald's film show are from a TV episode called "At Home with Donald Duck." It's never been released on DVD, but some late-'70s LaserDiscs may still exist.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted July 18, 2018 11:40 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm only assuming this, but was this a freebie included with some projectors when bought? I remember another little 50ft edition that was sold with some Sears projectors, a little minute and a half clip from Peter Pan, which had the "You Can Fly" song and them arriving in Neverland.

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Gordon G. Ellis
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 - posted July 18, 2018 01:43 PM      Profile for Gordon G. Ellis   Email Gordon G. Ellis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
@Osi O. — Yep. I still have the short You Can Fly clip that came along with my first Super 8 sound projector — received on x-mas day, 1977. Also the day that Chaplin died.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted July 19, 2018 10:42 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Having watched that clip again, I'm betting that the color has held up a little better than we'd expect, as, whnever i try to film with my digital FLIP video cameras, it always seems to make the color look red, even when it's a perfectly good color print and i have to work like the dickens just to get the color (thru color tinting) back to the actual color as close as possible, (I did that on my STAR WARS scope super 8 you tube video).

So it might well have better color than we see on that video.

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Carter Bradley
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 - posted July 19, 2018 12:31 PM      Profile for Carter Bradley     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This Walt Disney home movies 50' reel was available for order along with a number of other promotional items from WDHM, 500 South Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521. It was marketed to retailers who carried films. The purchase price of this film was $7.77 while all other items were free of charge with an order. The full line of "merchandising aids" from WDHM included complete catalogs, Spanish only catalogs, posters/hang tags/window stickers, envelope inserts, advertising line art, mini rack to display 6 films, 4-tier floor rack for 80 films, 2-tier counter rack for 60 films, 1-tier counter rack to display 25 films, and the coveted "demo film in color and sound." "Profit center pre-packs" of films selected at random by WDHM could be ordered: 25 film assortment (sound and silent) $448.75, 25 film assortment (sound only) $808.75, 60 film assortment (sound and silent) $1,072, and 100 film assortment (sound and silent) $1,700.00.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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quote:
25 film assortment (sound only) $808.75
That makes one 200' reel sound film approx $32. I believe the retail price for a 200" was around $24. Carter are you sure for that numbers?

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Carter Bradley
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 - posted July 20, 2018 02:56 AM      Profile for Carter Bradley     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Walt Disney home movies in USA were always priced more expensively than other companies. Their retail price for a 200' color/sound film was $32.95, according to the January 1, 1977 order form. I did misspeak when I stated these prices reflected a 40% discount, however, retailers would receive a 40% discount when ordering.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted July 20, 2018 11:48 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For they're time, though, they were of superior quality. Of course, here in the U.S. we didn't know that later effects of that dreaded eastman, but we were getting straight from the archives, prints of beloved cartoons classics!

The only thing that annoys, many years later, is that WDHM's released, in many cases, "edited" versions of thier cartoons.

I guess this was a way of maintaining a value on the full length versions for the future, but the editing was done in such a way that you usually didn't notice what was taken out unless you knew the original cartoons in full.

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Carter Bradley
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I agree with Osi regarding the editing. Walt Disney were superior (right up there with Castle). Even their 50' edited versions of the cartoons were skillfully done. I'll never forget saving up enough money to purchase my first color films: 50' versions of "Lonesome Ghosts" and "Trick or Treat." $7.95 for each was a struggle at age 12 or so!!

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