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Topic: 16mm on its way out???
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted February 28, 2018 01:00 PM
As you may know, we were going to pull out of it all together a year ago, instead i stayed in as i wanted to find a scope feature of Kidnapped which is not on 8mm. I had to spend more than i wanted getting it right, i needed to sort the NT1 out which i did, (now also have one i am playing with as a spare, thread on here), also required a scope lens bracket, however, i not only ended up staying but in we have racked up many more films than i thought, titles i never thought i would own including Witness and Dances with Wolves. Several TV episodes of Minder and the Professionals to name a few. I love this stuff, it is a bit of a space taker but i will know when i reach my limit.
On the "slowing down of sales" i can say this, i work in the motor trade here in the UK, one of the largest motor groups in Europe, everything is very slow and business is not at all good anywhere, in all motor groups, today we saw Toys r us go to the wall along with Maplins the electrical store group. To me there is no good news anywhere at the moment and i think theirs a bit of a news block on it all, bearing this in mind, hobby's will suffer as we begin to hold onto our monies in case of bad news.
I must say that being that we are in the year 2018 it think 8 and 16mm is doing very well. I for one will guarantee that all but a very tiny few of my purchases this year will be 16mm.
While i do not want to start the nonsense of whats better 8 or 16, to me its obvious that there is a huge amount more titles on 16 and most of the films have never been available on super 8, also every print i have bought has utterly pin sharp image which is not always the case on super 8 unless you spend mega bucks on modern feature, one has to be careful what you buy on 16 in order to ensure the print isn't worn out and/or full of splices and multi stocks, and of course you need to be certain that what you buy has been viewed in full by the seller so you have a full on correct description of what your buying.
What i will no longer do is buy for the sake of collecting. I want only what i want to own and keep. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Robert Crewdson
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1031
From: UK
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted March 01, 2018 03:44 AM
The storming titles that Phil has could be counted on the fingers of both hands. As for reviews, I spent a lot of time researching , to supply him with two articles,with photos, only for them to be published anonymously. I've been very interested in films ever since I saw 'The Ten Commandments ' as a young boy, yet most of his titles are unknown to me.
'The Runaway Bus', I think Frankie Howard's first film is a rarity, but most prints are incomplete, as for some reason a telephone box scene was edited out, but has now been restored.
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted March 01, 2018 07:24 AM
Dave, those cheap discs are now looking pretty good, with Blu ray looking superb, (let alone 4K) with those digital projectors becoming so cheap now it looks pretty good for film buffs. I know its not the same but it is very affordable and the sound systems of the digital formats cannot be matched by cine.
As already said, only a limited number of new comers will join the real cine collecting, if you just joined it recently the prices of decent top titles would simply put you off unless you won the lottery. Im my opinion, (and i couldn't give a monkeys what anyone thinks of this opinion), only a moron would pay upwards above 700/800 a print. My top price would be a quarter of that, and it would have to be something i really want, hence why i'm never likely to own a James Bond or an Indiana Jones etc, yet with a digital projector i can still see these and more for a fiver on the big screen in 1st class image quality. Why would would i pay 700 or more?
In my opinion, we are the lucky ones who have been fortunate to amass collections over the last 40 years or more, so like the steam train enthusiasts we will all keep it going for as long as we can. I dont see it dying out any time soon, 16mm or 8 for that matter.
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