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Topic: Blu Ray gone in 5 years
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Mark Todd
Film God
Posts: 3846
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted September 04, 2008 04:51 AM
Funny I`d heard that std dvd sales and players were still zooming up and ahead, but it does look as if BR will do well.
Obviously machine and disc prices need to fall.
We buy plenty of std dvds for 2.99 posted with top picture quality etc, compare that to VHS 20 years ago.
Even when DVD came in VHS was still often selling at round 10.99 to £14 or so, it was only dvd put it down to more sensible levels.
DVD has been great for affordabe and great quality films in the Home.
I don`t think downloading will hit DVD or BR sales so much as theres still the human need to collect and own and feel something tangiable.
Who wants a box full of 5 thousand films at a flick, not me and also there`s present buying where dvd and BR come in to thier own.
Be insteresting to see how BR disc sales go for Christmas this year, with the samsung 1500 player at not much more than £150 delivered on and off, I think many dvd real enthusiasts will now be taking the plunge.
BR players will be around for many years to come and so should be getting a device to play them.
I love film and still do it but BR discs don`t come oh so regularly like film, with parts missing, bad scratches, sound missing in places, damaged sprocket holes, fading, poor prints,warped/vs, themselves etc.
All power to BR and film on disc its great and real film will still be with us as well.
Real film isn`t as good overall, lets be honest, but its what it is and what its enjoyed for.
As we love film so much we should get on the blower and be ordering much more new from Derann and CHC and really making a better effort there.
Anyone who thinks film looks better in the home than dvd or BR projected especially on the new Video projectors, has the set up wrong or a poor transfer etc, the new gear and way of watching film( on disc) is superb and something we can all enjoy as well as our films.
Best Mark.
PS films own Paul Foster sells cracking value BR discs for anyone interested.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 04, 2008 09:43 AM
I've always had a non aired suspicion that BR may be the Laserdisc of the new millenium. Laserdisc was a BIG step up from VHS, but it never really caught on, (mostly, because you could not record on them, cost was only a slight problem).
A comment earlier in the posts, (paraphrase)
" If we loved film so much, we'd buy up CHC or Derann. "
Love to ... if only the extra odd 300 pounds were sitiin g around every month, but they're not. I must say, If I was rich, I would pretty much buy up everything Derann has, except the musicals, never really cared for them, cept "Singing In The Rain"
The earlier posts were right though, the turnaround on emerging technologies is staggering. I really wonder how the companies market something; if they ask, "Will this still be out there five years from now? "
I mean, I already see BR in the pawnshops, and that's here in Mountain Home, Idaho, population 10,000!
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 04, 2008 11:23 AM
Mark,
What I meant was regular DVD and BR is like the comparison between Laserdisc and VHS. Laserdisc WAS a big jump up from VHS.
BR is a big jump up from DVD, (comparitively).
I actually did stand up comedy for a short time and I had a routine about the silliness of Elvis musicals ...
You could see Elvis come up to a train track, where his friend is tied ...
" ELVIS! I'm tied to the track, and a trains coming, save me!"
Does Elvis untie his friend? No! He breaks into song!
" Well, a trains a comin down the track, Bah huh huh!
Bah huh huh! "
" No Elvis, c'mon! I'm serious, the train's coming!! "
(Now the Go go dancers come down from out of the air, in bikini's!)
" Well, a trains a comin down the track, bah huh huh!
Bah huh huh! "
" ELVIS!! YOU STUPID BASTARD! GET ME OFF THIS TRACK!! "
" Well, a trains comin down the track
Here it comes a clickety clack,
Bah huh huh, bah huh huh! "
" THE TRAIN AIGH!!! ELVIS!! "
(Now the Jordinaires join Elvis)(note: Elvis hip swings)
" We'll the train's, a comin down-own,
the track!
BA WA WA WA WA WA WA WA WA WA OOOOH WAAAH! "
(Gruesome sounds as friend is run over by train!)
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted September 05, 2008 11:28 AM
Hi,
there are several new storage-media in the work, e.g.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
They're supposed to store the films either uncompressed (= no more compression artefacts) in HD or compressed in higher resolutions (2k, 4k, ...).
Other solutions don't offer more storage, but are cheaper and/or more friendly to the environment and/or are supposed to allow a longer storage and/or are smaller.
... and of course there are others that claim that there will be no next removable medium as all future videos will only be available on demand as an internet-stream on a pay-per-view-base.
Jörg
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 12, 2008 11:03 AM
Graham ...
It almost sounds like, even at this point, those that are pushing BR aren't even sure.
... but things are growing at such a rate, I'm truly stunned with all the changes in gadgets! We can all vouch for just how much things have changed in the last thirty years. When STAR WARS came out, it was so HIGH TECH to actually have even the 200ft version of the TIE FIGHTER battle on your wall when you had just seen it days before in the theater,(as they kept on re-releasing it each year). and now, here I am, only four months after it was released, only waiting one more month for the latest Indiana Jones film to come out on DVD, which, if I desire, I can project on the wall at 200ft!
... and, even as we speak, home technology is way beyond that, (though not released to the general public.)
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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you would think that after all the money spent to develop B/R they would at least try to push things along a bit more, as far as titles are concerned its been... really slow.. I will hold of getting into B/R until the people behind it make more effort.
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