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Jim Schrader
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posted September 14, 2010 02:21 PM

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all looks good on this unit but look at the 19th picture it shows a completely different bulb installed, then what is extra did they make 2 kinds of bulbs for this unit?

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Glenn Brady
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posted September 14, 2010 03:54 PM

A later version of this projector was available with a Quartz Halogen bulb and there were factory conversion kits available to upgrade older machines. All of the earlier series projectors like this one were equipped with the so-called 'spaceman' bulb (these bulbs are still available although often a bit pricey - they're CXR 8V/50W). The large bulb shown installed in this machine seems to fit, but I'm almost certain it wasn't intended for such use. There's more detailed information about the 18-5L Super 8 model and various lamp options at http://www.bolexcollector.com/projectors/185l.html

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Joe McAllister
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posted September 14, 2010 04:12 PM

Hi the bulb that is shown as installed is the original 8v50w model lamp that was replaced by the silver sealed beam unit shown in the other pictures as a spare. Later (super 8mm) models used a similar looking bulb with a 75w rating which could be replace by a QI version with a built in reflector or an adapter could be fitted for the 75w QI bulb common to other s8 projectors of the time. Some later models used the common 75 w QI lamp exclusively.Adapters were available to upgrade earlier models.
There doesn't seem to be much different in the design of the various 18-5 projectors so maybe it is possible to upgrade the8v 50w to the later brighter QI bulbs without concerns about the cooling etc.

[ September 16, 2010, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: Joe McAllister ]

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Glenn Brady
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posted September 15, 2010 07:24 AM

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the bulb that is shown as installed is the original 8v50w model lamp that was replaced by the silver sealed beam unit shown in the other pictures as a spare.

Thanks for the correction. I've owned several of these sturdy little projectors and hadn't seen the lamp that's installed in this example.

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Joe McAllister
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posted September 16, 2010 03:17 AM

Hi Glen I'm not surprised that you have never seen the early 8v 50 w bulb. My first std 8 projector had one installed when new but when I needed to replace it the silver style replacement lamps were the only ones available. I haven't seen one since.
There was a QI lamp with a built in reflector that could also be used in the early 18-5's but they were discontinued years ago. Which is a shame as they out perform the silver style which is still easily available

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Thomas Dafnides
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posted September 17, 2010 10:53 PM

Interesting, the QI lamp 8v 50watt....do you know what the code letters were?

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Joe McAllister
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posted September 21, 2010 05:10 PM

Can't remember the code for the 8v50w QI (or was it halogen?) remember the ads in cine magazines but never owned one. I'll trawl through the old mags I have for an ad.

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