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Topic: Is vinegar syndrome an issue with your collection?
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Joe Caruso
Film God
Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 26, 2017 10:15 AM
No, CASTLE and other distributors went acetate - You won't have trouble with VS, unless storage is inadequate and too much humidity affects the prints - Cardboard boxes, of which I'm an advocate, will release oxides, though not harmful - They are more attractive than the usual cans, as most will have excellent box-art which is your second collectible - I have some Super 8 in poly, they hold up as well - Collecting these many years, I've encountered no VS, except when I bought from others, then I go into my experimentation with baking soda (sprinkled in the the open boxes, and allowing them to air for a week or so) - Also a few dabs on the film proper, both sides, let that sink in for about a week or so and my results yield a 75% drop in odor - Now, I've worked this on a 2-part Charlie Chase (BROMEO & JULIET), and a Chaplin (THE MASQUERADER), both in Std 8 - Those are (were) my only two casualties in all these years - Not saying there isn't more - Storage and proper air circulation, the same with comic books, toys, recordings and emphrema (as particular, posters, lobbies, books and magazines) - Hope to see many of you next week in Buffalo - Shorty
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Joe Caruso
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 27, 2017 08:57 AM
Maybe Phil will share - In the mean, I use baking soda and open air - Slow success, yet it does have progressive results, as I mentioned - For those who use metal cans/reels, try to limit this to prints you may not run too often or will eventually trade away - Metal (under humid conditions particularly), releases oxide gas that hurt celluloid - I have excatly 3 shorts in metal cans/reels, and again I maintain a moderate air circulation all the time - They are still as fresh as when purchased - True, some prints are extreme in smell and must be reluctantly trashed, unless there is a method to combat and restore the emulsion - It's like comic books and paper that turns yellow, unless you use acid-free boards/archival bags, they will turn - I cut some section of those boards (roundly), place them in a can or box, then place the film or films in bags - This also is positive approach - Everything ages, we all do - Work your best - Cheers, Shorty
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Joe Caruso
Film God
Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 28, 2017 11:44 AM
VITA-FILM years back, then FilmGuard (or REnew) - Tend to smell a bit, though in a good way - 8mm has it's share of VS, and again, it is storage - baking soda, proper circulation and just outright "airing" will help the cause - On the Chase short that had a strong odor, it has a 20% I'd say (minimal) odor now, still experimenting - When I was into 16, no trouble with VS, just storage in high heat caused them to turn lousy, but not the salad dressing as we know it now - I strongly am committed to fresh air, soda and if needed, molecular sieves - lately, I've emptied the little capsule that comes with prescriptions, added that into the can or box, seems to help a bit also- Cheers all-around, Shorty
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