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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted June 27, 2018 11:42 AM

It's NOT my auction ...

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I remember the little silent movie viewer things, to be sure, but I never knew that they actually tried these out with SOUND!

it even comes with three film loops! I wonder if they ever made any more of these sound loops for these devices? I also wonder if these were standard 8mm or super 8? Super 8 was certainly around in 1968, but i don't recall as to when sound was added to the "super 8 mix"?

UPDATE!!! Wait a minute! One of the photos seems to show that this was an optical sound machine! WOW!!

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Paul Adsett
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posted June 27, 2018 07:37 PM

Osi, the Kenner sound films were special 12mm film with a 4mm optical track.

Not exactly up to super 8mm standards! [Big Grin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIp-Ayq0Hoc

Here is a review and test of the Kenner Easy Show projector:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egrpr38Ca4w

And here is a TV commercial for the Kenner Easy Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6NqxXzlILE

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Osi Osgood
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posted June 29, 2018 12:04 PM

Paul! Awesome stuff.

there is one youtube video that demonstrates the sound version, but it appears that the sound is very low. I wonder if any of the releases were in color? They appear to all be black and white.

Still, fascinating stuff!

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted July 01, 2018 09:09 AM

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the Kenner sound films were special 12mm film with a 4mm optical track

Paul, I checked the second youtube you gave above, it says the film is 8mm. So is there another Kenner with 12mm?

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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted July 01, 2018 01:53 PM

I stand corrected Winbert. The super8 data base says that the Kenner Optical sound film is 11.5 mm wide, using a standard 8mm picture size and a 3,5mm wide optical track.

http://www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/toys_list/toys_kenner/kenner_real_sound.htm

Here is a picture of the sound film cartridge:

and here is the threading path for the 11.5mm optical sound film:

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