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Tom Photiou
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posted September 01, 2018 03:06 PM

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I saw this on blu ray for the first time the other evening.
I didn't know anything about the movie if i am honest prior to watching it. I looked at the back cover and saw it was a true story and also Clint Eastwood produced and directed it. A guaranteed good viewing, The movie is really good but i didn't expect the ending at all, talk about very sad, but the music used "The funeral" by the maestro Ennio Morriconnie has the audience in total silence during the whole of the end credits and funeral sequence. One of the most powerful endings to any movie ive seen.
I'm probably one of the few to have seen this movie so here is that moving sequence if you you dont choke theirs something wrong with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4eCMSIM4WQ&t=0s&list=PLSzKX1I-evg48AtYU2iIC4 YRKnGoS0AK4&index=19

Apparently the news coverage of this is in the states, was overshadowed by some piece of trash junkie pop stars death. You see whats wrong with this world when this happens. (believe me my description here is very restrained, the words i would use when someone like this gets overshadowed on the news by a piece 0f S*** make me boil)

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Bill Brandenstein
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posted September 01, 2018 05:00 PM

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I have not seen this, but relatives and friends who've told me about it responded in a similar way to you, Tom.

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Gary Baker
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posted September 01, 2018 05:51 PM

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Wow. And that was you being restrained?

Presumably you're referring to the death of Whitney Houston. A junkie she may have been but do you really have to denigrate her in quite that manner so you can express your admiration for Chris Kyle?

That may be the first properly hateful thing I've read on this board. And here's me thinking this was a nice place to be, away from dodgy rhetoric.

Also, fact check: Kyle may have been an efficient and heroic sniper but he was also known to tell porkies about his deeds, something not covered in the film. when a film erases the fact that its subject was a fabricator, then that itself is a lie.

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Barry Fritz
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posted September 01, 2018 06:51 PM

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It was a popular and well attended movie in the States.

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Guy Taylor, Jr.
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posted September 01, 2018 08:35 PM

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I love this movie.

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Tom Photiou
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posted September 02, 2018 03:51 AM

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Gary, i never mentioned WH, but without straying too far, the one thing i really like about Americans is how patriotic they are. Im not an ardent fan of Chris Kyle. The film was very good and i did learn a little bit about this particular soldier. Unfortunatly one of my pet hates is "celebrities". Many young people look upto pop stars and actors and many of them, with privilaged lives most people will never have, seem to think there kings or Queens. But when i learnt that his funeral was completley overshadowed by the death of a pop singer, who like many was a junkie, i was quite surprised. Unfortunatly to me a drugy is drugy no matter who they are or what they are.
Just my opinion though.
Barry, i see that this was one of Clint Eastwoods highest grossing films in the US and around the world.

[ September 02, 2018, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted September 02, 2018 10:36 AM

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Tom,

There was a huge amount of news coverage in the US about Chris Kyle's murder, not only because he was a war hero and best selling author, but also because he was killed by someone he was trying to help.
His funeral occurred on the day after Whitney Houston's death, however there had been nine days of news and tributes about him before that.

Doug

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Tom Photiou
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posted September 02, 2018 11:01 AM

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Thanks Doug, In that case i stand corrected. I have read quite a lot of items that said news coverage was overshadowed by the other. [Wink]

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Gary Baker
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posted September 02, 2018 11:21 AM

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Yeah, I hear what you're saying, it's very clear...a druggie is a druggie or as you put it, a P.O.S.

Perhaps your admiration for the US should take into account it's very severe opioid epidemic at the moment. It's a very complex problem where many otherwise good people become addicted to drugs for a truly fast array of reasons whether they be personal, social or economic. I wonder if those helping to fight this would agree with your narrow definition of a 'drugie' as a less than worthwhile human being compared to say, someone more worthy, like a man who killed close to two hundred people...from a very great distance.

Sorry, but you have your tolerance issues and I have mine. Idiotic absolutism is one of them.

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Gary Baker
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posted September 02, 2018 11:22 AM

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Incidentally Whitney's father was an American serviceman. I wonder if he would agree with your estimation of his daughter (who was btw the most awarded singer in history according to Guinness)

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Michael O'Regan
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posted September 03, 2018 06:19 AM

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During my years in the music business, I've come across many who have or have had addiction problems. I can assure you that those peoples problems were very real and should in no way be trivialised or reduced to simple self-indulgence.

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Stuart Reid
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posted September 03, 2018 09:39 AM

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I have had deeply painful addiction issues culminating in a stay at an addiction centre. Guess that makes me a P.O.S. too, right? Jesus, the ignorance of some people...

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Terry Sills
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posted September 03, 2018 11:07 AM

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Respect to you Stuart, not just for tackling and overcoming your addiction, but for openly talking about it.
My wife says I've got an alcohol problem, but as I keep telling her, I haven't got a problem - I drink, get drunk, fall asleep - no problem [Wink]

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Gary Baker
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posted September 03, 2018 01:31 PM

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Tom,

I'm sorry we've crossed swords in this manner. I value everyone on this board as the great bunch of people you are. I believe it was you who kindly put me in touch with Bill Parsons when I needed my Elmo serviced and I've benefited in other ways from all the good will and knowledge I've found here.

Your original post was clearly heartfelt and I realise you were probably just writing from the hip, as it were. Please see my reply in a similar vein. Yes, drug addiction can make people behave badly or even abhorrently but my point was just that they shouldn't be regarded without some degree of empathy and understanding.

I hope you'll view my posts with some of that as well.

Gary

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Tom Photiou
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posted September 03, 2018 04:15 PM

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Absolutely, everyone has an opinion,
The item regarding the movie is simply that i thought it was a very well done film by one of the best Directors,the rest, is simply my own opinion, i dont change it to suit others as i am sure others wont for me. (nor should they).
I have had many ups and downs in my own life and going through a major one now but education has taught me what drugs do so ive steered clear. [Wink]

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Terry Sills
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posted September 03, 2018 05:17 PM

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And good for you Tom. My opinion is that all drugs should be free of inhibition or restrictive laws. You will never stop people from taking drugs, whether alcohol, tobacco or anything else, so why bother. It doesn't mean that a rethink will fill the streets of drug addicts, just as the relinquishing of the prohibition era in the USA didn't do the same for users of alcohol. Let people make their own choice. At the very least it would eliminate the criminal element and put a stop to needless gang war killings. Other forward thinking countries have done so without regret. Judge Pickles had it right all those years ago.

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