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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 26, 2006, 06:53 AM:

I have two same 400 title "CLOSE ENCOUTERS OF THE THIRD KIND". When I cheked both, they have slightly different edit.

The box is also different, one is cardboard and the other one is clamshell.

Does it means the company made two negatives for one release?

I noticed also that one reel was printed on Eastman and the other one was on AGFA.

Funny thing that the one in AGFA stock also get faded.

Cheers,

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on June 26, 2006, 07:26 AM:

Thats interesting. I didnt know there were the two edits. More to the point I'm surprised the Agfa stock has fade. You sure it's not just badly printed. What makes you think it's got some fade?

Kev.

Posted by Andrew Wilson (Member # 538) on June 26, 2006, 10:43 AM:

thats interesting.i remember ken films releasing force 10 from navarone as a 1x400ft digest.
then a couple of weeks later another company released a diffent version of the same movie.
the ken version rushed the finale;the other version didnt.andy.
so yes there are various versions of the same movie out there.

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on June 26, 2006, 01:50 PM:

Winbert,

What are the differences between the two "Close Encounters" versions?

Doug

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 27, 2006, 02:07 AM:

I could not clearly recall the scenes but the most obvious ones were the opening and closing credit titles.

I think eventhough the different shape of their boxes, however, they both were realesed by Columbia.

The one with AGFA stock was found in the clamshell box and it is noticeable that the colors have turned red. I say this as AGFA stock as the sign on the edge of the film show numbers insteaad of "safety films" or "Eastman" signs.

This is to remind me regarding the cause of fading between film stocks vs lab works.

cheers,

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on June 27, 2006, 02:28 AM:

This is a strange one, as I remember there was a big hoo ha in the 8mm world when CEOTTK first came out as Columbia Home Entertainment had worked closely with Stephen Spielberg on the final cut for the home 8mm release, and he had to authorise the "Final Cut". I have had numerous 400's of this title through my hands and they have all had the same cut, all I can think of is one of the many negs used for this title must have got damaged, and someone making a new neg didn't follow exactly the cutting notes, thus the slight variation. Now if we were talking "The Sound Of Music", I reckon I've seen about 6 or 7 different cuts to my knowledge, very crafty marketing here, as FOX had a tendency to leak the fact that a slightly different cut had come out, so fans of the movie would go and buy it, although usually only 2 or 3 scenes were different, very clever.

Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on June 27, 2006, 06:10 AM:

I remember reading reviews for digests back in the late 70's, and reading that there were also differently edited versions of "Tommy" (Columbia Super 8). I only have the last edition, which was released in the new clamshell box, so I can't confirm if there is a difference in the editing.

Nick.

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on June 27, 2006, 09:26 AM:

There was definately 2 different versions of "Tommy", there was the Columbia print, and here in the U.K. we also had a 400' from Iver Film Services, and I think there is only 5 or 6 minutes of double footage, as the Iver editor took a totaly different route in his editing to the Columbia editor, therefore you can make up about a 30-35 minute version by cutting the 2 together, however if the framelines match, that's a different matter.

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