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Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on February 05, 2009, 05:31 AM:
I would be interested to know what "rare" titles fellow collectors have in their collection? These titles are, of course, "rare" in the owners opinion.
I'll start the with my "rarities" (in my opinion).
BRANNIGAN - Feature
F/X - MURDER BY ILLUSION - Feature
ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD - Red Fox feature
BATTLE HELL (aka - THE YANGZTEE INCIDENT) - Feature
OCCURANCE AT OWL CREEK - TWILIGHT ZONE - 600ft.
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Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on February 05, 2009, 05:56 AM:
Keith, I too have a print of "Occurence at Owl's Creek".
There's one title I have in the collection that I never saw again anywhere, it's the Spam/Hungarian phrase book episode from Monty Python Flying Circus. Any other member own this one?
I have a bunch of titles which are considered rare here as they were only sold in Germany (a lot of French comedies which I have redubbed...) but some other german titles are pretty common to the collectors world (Das Boot, Star Crash, Zombie, The Kids are Alright, Phantasm, Anthropophagous, Something Waits in the Dark, Bullet Train 109...)
Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on February 05, 2009, 07:16 AM:
The bulk of my collection is vintage horror and sci fi films and two of my Super 8 titles I have never seen for sale on any lists in years. They are "Horror Express" 4X600ft reels colour and sound in the original crystal boxes and "The Night Caller" 4X400ft black and white sound from Walton Films also in its original boxes. This film from 1965 can be found on 1X400ft reel and as a feature in Standard 8 but it seems almost non existant as a Super 8 feature so I am really quite pleased to have it in my collection.
Paul.
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on February 05, 2009, 07:47 AM:
400ft of 'The Rose'. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 05, 2009, 10:18 AM:
Without a doubt, the rarest film in my collection is the 2400ft color feature ' The Magic Box' - the 1951 Festival of Britain film about the birth of the cinema in the UK, and starring just about every British film actor of the time.
Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on February 05, 2009, 10:49 AM:
Paul, there's not many of us here that actually went to the "Telekinema" at the Festival of Britain and were inspired by what we saw there. (And for those across the pond that have flown into Gatwick since then... the only thing at Gatwick in those days was a derelict racecourse and annual Air Show)
Martin
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 05, 2009, 11:33 AM:
I envy you Paul, I love "Horror Express",
MOst of my rarities are the optical super 8 features, such as Rocky 3 or Children of a Lesser God ...
But my favorites ae the rare cartoons, such as "Sunshine Makers" in color and sound, (and very good color at that!), and "Magoo Beats the Heat" in color and scope!, among others.
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on February 05, 2009, 04:14 PM:
How about six Marx Brothers features (HORSE FEATHERS,DUCK SOUP,A DAY AT THE RACES,AT THE CIRCUS,ROOM SERVICE,A NIGHT IN CASABLANCA) and three Harry Langdon silent features (TRAMP TRAMP TRAMP ,LONG PANTS,HIS FIRST FLAME) for starters ? All in super or standard 8. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on February 05, 2009, 04:25 PM:
The Super 8 rarities in my collection are:
Geri's Game ((Pixar short)
The Magic Box 4 x 600ft feature (sorry Keith!)
The Belstone Fox 4 x 600ft 'scope feature
Jason & The Argonauts 4 x 600ft feature
Kevin
[ February 06, 2009, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Kevin Clark ]
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on February 05, 2009, 04:37 PM:
Well, here's my rare prints:
Disney's ROBIN HOOD (good Italian print)
Disney's SONG OF THE SOUTH (very good/excellent Italian print)
Disney's THE RESCUERS (excellent Italian print)
Disney's PETE'S DRAGON (not the best Italian Disney's)
Disney's BEDKNOBS AND BROOMSTICKS (good Italian print)
Disney's FANTASIA (very poor Italian print)
Spielberg's ET - The Extra-Terrestrial (American full-lenght print)
Romero's DAWN OF THE DEAD (good Italian print - European cut)
Argento's TENEBRAE (good italian print)
I'm anyway so happy with them, even if probably not so rare...
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Posted by Tony Stucchio (Member # 519) on February 05, 2009, 06:36 PM:
HAVE BADGE, WILL CHASE, with Abbott & Costello, from Castle Films.
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on February 06, 2009, 12:53 AM:
I guess my Castle films short Border Law is pretty rare since someone on here said it was only released in 1942 and then deleted.
Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on February 06, 2009, 07:42 AM:
Some of the titles that i think are rare are:
1. Horror Express - full length
2. Legend of the Werewolf - full length
3. The Longest Yard (Mean Machine) - full length
4. Carry on Screaming - full length
5. Enter the Dragon - 4x400ft
and I need to go through all the other featues just in case other gems appear
Dave Skillern
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on February 06, 2009, 07:59 AM:
I wasn't aware Horror Express was rare. It was released here by Red Fox. I have a print and a number of other collectors I know have a print. I do have a super 8 print of the Marx Brothers' Animal Crackers...it was printed by the man who invented the Extend a Reel...who within a year or so after printing it, died. He only put out a very few things...things that were his favorites. I don't believe there were more than two or three of the Animal Crackers prints made.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 06, 2009, 02:03 PM:
Love to get "Duck Soup"!
Posted by Terry Lagler (Member # 1110) on February 06, 2009, 03:14 PM:
I recently acquired Chaplin's "The Circus" sound feature in Super 8. I had no idea it existed until I had it in my hands.
Terry
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on February 06, 2009, 04:02 PM:
But, my super duper extra special ultra hard-to-find rarity is the 1919 Charlie Chaplin cartoon CHARLEY ON THE FARM by Pat Sullivan (Felix the Cat's creator)! ! !
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on February 06, 2009, 05:23 PM:
In my collection the rare titles are:
Carry on Screaming
Close Encounters
Alien
ET
Robin Hood (Red Fox)
Fra Diavolo (Red Fox)
Kev.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on February 06, 2009, 05:45 PM:
The rare titles in my collection are so rare that they don't even exist!
Posted by Jose Artiles (Member # 471) on February 06, 2009, 06:44 PM:
in my colection my rare titles are
The Hunchback of the Rue Morgue (el jorobado de la morgue in spanish) paul naschy movie
exorcism ,paul naschy movie
Marshall of Hell (mariscal del infierno is the spanish title) paul naschy movie
Adelante Marta!(is a very very strange and rare film enterely filmed on sweden and german,the title in english is not on the imdb but means literally something like go ahead martha!)
burnt offerings a classic horror story about an enchanted house with karen black and a old bette davis
scanners
its alive
the ten comandments
the nigth visitor
captain horatio hornblower a classic with gregory peck and a wonderfull print
and last but not least..JAWS great print on ag s1 stock
Posted by Jose Artiles (Member # 471) on February 06, 2009, 06:45 PM:
in my colection my rare titles are
The Hunchback of the Rue Morgue (el jorobado de la morgue in spanish) paul naschy movie
exorcism ,paul naschy movie
Marshall of Hell (mariscal del infierno is the spanish title) paul naschy movie
Adelante Marta!(is a very very strange and rare film enterely filmed on sweden and german,the title in english is not on the imdb but means literally something like go ahead martha!)
burnt offerings a classic horror story about an enchanted house with karen black and a old bette davis
scanners
its alive
the ten comandments
the nigth visitor
captain horatio hornblower a classic with gregory peck and a wonderfull print
and last but not least..JAWS great print on ag s1 stock and SCOPE
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on February 06, 2009, 07:47 PM:
Mine would be
Helter Skelter- the story of the manson murders
Carrie- with sissy spacek
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on February 06, 2009, 08:22 PM:
Steve, this Was great. I'm still laughing!
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 06, 2009, 08:39 PM:
I have the Monty Python episode 'Spam' on super 8. I also have 'The Devil's Ball' on super 8.
Bill
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Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on February 07, 2009, 01:28 AM:
Welcome to the Forum Bill - Enjoy.........
Posted by Jean-Christophe Deblock (Member # 792) on February 07, 2009, 05:19 AM:
In my collection, here are some rares titels:
- AIRPORT (of course! )full feature in 35mm, IB tech!
- Making of "Airport", 16mm, very rare and not include in the DVD.
Regards,
JC.
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on February 07, 2009, 08:06 AM:
welcome bill we have lots of fun on here andyou can get lots of info from anyone of our friendly members, welcome
Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on February 07, 2009, 08:18 AM:
Hi Gary,
thanks for the information regarding "Horror Express". I bought my print from a German collector but there was no information as to the distributor. It isn't in a Red Fox box but is housed in those crystal cases that swing open with original artwork on 4X600ft reels. I have never seen these type of cases in this size before and here in the UK I found it a quite difficult title to find on Super 8.
Paul.
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on February 07, 2009, 09:41 AM:
Hi-Jean-Marc
I used to own a copy of the Monty Python spam episode which was hilarious,I bought it new from Les Sydal of Regent films Blackpool in the late 70's,it originally came on 2 x 400ft spools in a plain cardboard box,I think it was released by Canterbury films in the USA?
I wish I had held onto it as I never came across a copy again,I think I traded it in to Perry's Movies Wimbledon.
Perhaps you have my copy??
Cheers MW
Posted by Kurt Gardner (Member # 440) on February 07, 2009, 10:18 AM:
Maybe I have your Monty Python episode! Mine is a black and white conversion with a military film service logo on it, which leads me to believe it was shown on ships at sea and other bases and places with no telly. It's on one 600' reel.
The "I Love Lucy" episode I mentioned in an earlier post is another rarity. I also have a "Horror Express." I can't tell who the original manufacturer is, but it's not Niles, that's for darn sure. The colors are still very good and the sound is clear. Interestingly, it's on four 400' reels (as opposed to the 4x600 mentioned by others here) but it doesn't feel incomplete. The story is comprehensible and the violence is intact.
Another interesting piece of film I have is a "Poltergeist" pre-release teaser trailer featuring rather dubious interviews with "paranormal experts." At that time the studio was going more for hard-hitting horror and planned to release it with an "R" rating as indicated by the MPAA ratings card at the beginning of the trailer. There's only one scene from the film included: a quick snippet of the kids struggling against the black hole in the closet. The rest is stills.
Also have the Walton 4x400 "Witchfinder General." Colors have held up fairly well and the story doesn't suffer from the sight abridgment.
Finally, I have a Niles print of Pete Walker's "Schizo," which is a little brown but not too bad. I lived in the same town as Niles Film Products (South Bend, Indiana) and used to go to their storefront to buy/trade films. "Schizo" was one of the first they offered in Super 8mm and Betamax tape! I don't ever see it on any used lists, so I don't know how many film versions made it out there. It's an endearingly ramshackle 1976 slasher with poor Lynne Frederick providing the cheesecake. And it's so-o-o-o English. You just want to bring out the Guinness and chip butties while watching it!
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on February 07, 2009, 10:30 AM:
My rarities in Super 8mm are feature prints of "Close Encounters", "Bride of Frankenstein" and the 1931 "Dracula". There's also that homemade (not my home) print of "Dracula A.D. 1972".
I've been told there aren't too many Super 8mm copies of an intermission reel I have that features dancing concession foods along with a countdown ("The show will start in 10 minutes").
Bill, welcome to the Forum!
Doug
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on February 07, 2009, 10:35 AM:
Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby,
let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat!
Mark, sorry, I can't remember if it was from Perry's or Foster Films.
Posted by Kurt Gardner (Member # 440) on February 07, 2009, 11:51 AM:
Bill, we both have the Python and "At the Devil's Ball"! "Devil's Ball" is a recut of Starewich's "The Mascot," which is a children's film. It was recut to be a propaganda piece! When you see "The Mascot" you understand what the dog has to do with everything but it dilutes the weirdness of the recut. You can see it on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-mkGqcvKPM
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on February 07, 2009, 01:15 PM:
Well, no rare features here, but maybe these couple of short reels fit in:
"High on the Range" (Super-8.) one episode of a 1920es serial starring famed stuntman Yakima Canutt as a cowboy trying to battle (of all things) pot smoking on a ranch....quite the subject for a 20es Western serial. Terrible transfer, but definitely one of a kind.
Also in Super-8, the test reel from "Creation", Willis O'Brien's cancelled project just before "King Kong."
Featuring similar jungle sets, it has a pretty impressive chase scene with Ralf Harolde running for his life as a mother Triceratops is in hot pursuit after her offspring has been shot.
Interesting for what was to follow with "Kong."
Claus.
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 07, 2009, 09:14 PM:
Kurt,
I knew that 'Devil's Ball' was a cutdown from something bigger.
Bill
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Posted by Trevor Adams (Member # 42) on February 09, 2009, 12:19 PM:
Gasbags and Sailor Beware!
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on February 09, 2009, 02:26 PM:
quote:
Also in Super-8, the test reel from "Creation", Willis O'Brien's cancelled project just before "King Kong."
Featuring similar jungle sets, it has a pretty impressive chase scene with Ralf Harolde running for his life as a mother Triceratops is in hot pursuit after her offspring has been shot.
Interesting for what was to follow with "Kong."
You win. THAT's rare...
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on February 09, 2009, 03:04 PM:
We have,
Flying Leathernecks, 4x400 but in colour,
Also, the 7 x 400ft Run of the Arrow also in colour,
Stingray, 400ft b/w sound the first episode of the first series ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
on 16mm All that Jazz (Roy Schider)
Posted by Tony Stucchio (Member # 519) on February 09, 2009, 08:24 PM:
quote:
HAVE BADGE, WILL CHASE, with Abbott & Costello, from Castle Films.
That was a joke, guys. But I figured that hundreds of people selling this on eBay can't all be wrong!
Like Kevin, I also have Red Fox prints of FRA DIAVOLO (Laurel & Hardy)and ROBIN HOOD (Errol Flynn). I didn't think the latter was that rare, though.
I would add:
UNACCUSTOMED AS WE ARE (L&H, sound/talkie version, Blackhawk)
SMALL TALK (Our Gang, Blackhawk)
THAT'S MY WIFE (L&H, Vitaphone track- only reason my print is rare, Blackhawk)
RAILROADIN' (Our Gang, sound/talkie version, Blackhawk)
YOUNG IRONSIDES (Charley Chase, Blackhawk)
I think some of my Stan Laurel solo shorts (SHOULD TALL MEN MARRY? - Blackhawk, ON THE FRONT PAGE - unknown, and EVE'S LOVE LETTERS - unknown) are also pretty rare.
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on February 09, 2009, 09:26 PM:
Tony,
Would you also include L&H Blackhawk prints with Vitaphone scores of:
Angora Love, Wrong Again.
Also They Go Boom is not a very common title.
The Battle of the Century extended version is also a very rare title.
Not complete, because it is missing the scenes with the boys signing
the fight contract. However the Boxing Match is in place.
It also contains a very nice score by Gaylord Perry.
By the way, was the Our Gang short: Cat, Dog & Company released with the vitaphone score on Super 8?
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on February 10, 2009, 01:07 AM:
Not sure , but is the 70's feature Hannah queen of the vampires rare on super 8?
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on February 10, 2009, 02:15 AM:
quote:
16mm All that Jazz
Drooling with envy... Tom, this is my #1 favorite film!
Posted by Stuart Reid (Member # 1460) on February 10, 2009, 06:21 AM:
My rarest on 16mm is probably the Ealing classic "The Ladykillers" in IB Tech, followed by "The Ipcress File" in Scope and Tech, "Alfie" in scope and Tech and a Scope print of "The Graduate" - seen loads of these flat but very few in Scope. Idiotically I've sold off Jaws and Grease, both scope prints, but to be honest they were both pretty worn out.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on February 10, 2009, 06:24 AM:
oh, & a blackhawk STD 8 full length of Thicker than water, L&H, there last short
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on February 10, 2009, 06:54 AM:
Tom - Flying Leathernecks, 4x400 - If ever you decide to part with it, please keep me in mind?
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on February 10, 2009, 04:34 PM:
Tom,
I also have a Blackhawk Std. 8 sound print of Thicker Than Water
and it contains all of the original MGM titles.
The contrast is super sharp and dense theatrical quality.
Along the same line with a Std. 8 Sound print of On the Wrong Trek.
-great theatrical quality, but not with all of the MGM titles.
Posted by Rob Koeling (Member # 35) on February 10, 2009, 05:11 PM:
Last year I got a S8 print of Jiri Trnka's "The Hand". Marvelous animation. Something I never thought I would be able to find on S8.
My rarest prints are 16mm prints. One is a print of David Lynch's "Eraserhead" (has a few issues) and the latest acquisition is a nice print of Jim Jarmusch's "Mystery Train".
I must admit that I'm very envious of people having the Spam/Hungarian phrase book episode from Monty Python Flying Circus. Jean-Marc, your nipples must explode with delight...
- Rob
Posted by Tony Stucchio (Member # 519) on February 10, 2009, 06:43 PM:
quote:
Tony,
Would you also include L&H Blackhawk prints with Vitaphone scores of:
Angora Love, Wrong Again.
Also They Go Boom is not a very common title.
The Battle of the Century extended version is also a very rare title.
Not complete, because it is missing the scenes with the boys signing
the fight contract. However the Boxing Match is in place.
It also contains a very nice score by Gaylord Perry.
By the way, was the Our Gang short: Cat, Dog & Company released with the vitaphone score on Super 8?
Gaylord Perry is famous for his spitball, not organ music accompaniment to silent films. I think you meant Gaylord Carter.
I don't have those other Vitaphone prints Michael mentions, but, yes, I would consider them rare. I have THEY GO BOOM, but since that was in release by BH for many years -- not so rare. UAWA wasn't released with the soundtrack until 1979 -- pretty late in the game -- VCRs were already playing in people's homes by then. Long version of BATTLE is extremely rare. (I don't have it -- only pie fight version.)
My Blackhawk THICKER THAN WATER also has M-G-M titles -- I thought that was unique to my print -- like an "answer" print. WRONG TREK I have, but that title shows up A LOT on eBay.
Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on February 11, 2009, 08:42 AM:
I think my rarest titles are the german full-features of:
- Rear window
- Tomorrow never dies (Scope)
- Moonraker (Scope)
- Fireball (Scope)
- Once upon a time in the west (Scope)
- The great race (Scope)
Regards,
Michael
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 11, 2009, 11:32 AM:
Did you know a bicycle shop sells bicycles?
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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 11, 2009, 12:13 PM:
Once Upon A Time In The West!! That must have been an expensive addition, and in scope! marvelous!
I think my ultimate rarity is "Close Encounters of the Third Kind ... 1977 version. We all know that Derann released about 13 or 15 copies of the 1980's "Special Edition", but we're all still baffled as to where this 1977 version scope feature came from.
Some of the best guesses are that it's an "Oil Rig" print, specifically manufactured to be shown on those rigs, and I have never seen another 1977 version ever pop up anywhere!
By the film stock markings, we seem to have discovered that it was a print from 1983.
... and it's a beautiful print besides all that. Lovely colors and extremely sharp.
Posted by Jean-Christophe Deblock (Member # 792) on February 11, 2009, 12:27 PM:
Hi Michael,
Where did you buy "once upon a time in the west" in scope?
Did the firm have a website?
Do you sell it? I'm very interesting.
Regards,
jean-Christophe.
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on February 11, 2009, 02:03 PM:
The "creation" reel was, I think, distributed in the U.s. by Murray Glass....I bought it in standard 8mm....pretty good quality , too.
Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on February 16, 2009, 05:42 PM:
Titles in my small super 8 collection that I consider rare are: The Beatles Tokyo Concert released by Encore Entertainment on 2X400' reels(now on a full 600 footer). It still has very good color. And also the RED FOX 5X400' Ed Wood's "Plan 9 From Outer Space".
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Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on February 17, 2009, 03:50 AM:
Osi,
yes, it's really great to look it in scope on an 2,80m-Screen
My copy have marvelous colors, no lines or fades...
Jean-Christophe,
I can't say, where I bought my copy, because there were only 20 copies from the 16mm-Scope-Negative, you understand ?
But one of these copies were at Ebay, Germany not so long ago.
Selling my copy ? Sorry, but I think I will never do that
Regards,
Michael
Posted by Jean-Christophe Deblock (Member # 792) on February 17, 2009, 03:20 PM:
Hi Mike,
I understand very well that you didn't want to sell it. But We didn't never know...
Once in my life ( it was in 1999, on the liege filmfair in Belgium ), I've seen a 16mm copy of this film, scope and with great colors. But 5 minutes too late... ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
So, I've bought antoher great film in such conditions: the good, the bad and the ugly. Very happy but not as "once upon a time in the west".
Enjoy your film! For me, it's one of the best Sergio Leone film and one of the best western ever made!
Regards,
JC.
Posted by Robert Tucker (Member # 386) on February 17, 2009, 05:25 PM:
Right where do i start on rare titles
16mm
The Prisoner Tv Series
Pilot feature length film of the Persuaders
The best of Benny Hill
A Hard Days Night
The T.A.M.I Show
35mm
Thunderbirds are Go
Elvis on Tour (as new)
The Getaway Original
The Mini Mob
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on February 18, 2009, 11:03 PM:
Robert,
I have "A Hard Day's Night" & "TAMI" on Super 8mm. Love those films!
Doug
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on February 18, 2009, 11:32 PM:
Doug,
Hard Days Night sounds great on 8!
Where and how did you located that one?
Is it complete, on B&W stock, and how is the picture image?
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on February 19, 2009, 10:00 AM:
Michael,
I picked it up on eBay back in 2003. It is complete on b&w stock, however the preprint material was not the best. There are a few places where splices in the original are evident, but hey, it's my favorite film!
Doug
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on February 19, 2009, 11:04 AM:
Doug,
I have a 16mm print on HDN. Sometimes I "thinks"
of selling it, but then I back out.
Also I have the rare Battle of the Century extended version.
When I had ordered it from Blackhawk, it had taken about
a year before receiving it. Blackhawk sent updates that the
film may not be released and if I wished to have my check
returned? They needed a written response that I was still
interested in the film. My reply was NO thanks and was glad
because it was worth the wait.
Over the past few years, I have debated whether I should sell
it? But have ultimately backed out.
In it being as much a rare item, I do wonder what it would
be worth in today's market?
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 19, 2009, 11:16 AM:
Micheal
(by the way, always good to hear from ya)
I do know of a certian forum member, (who, if they should wish to, may make themselves known), who paid a couple hundred dollars for the extended versiopn of "battle" about a year or so ago. This probably wouldn't be the norm, but I wouldn't be surprised if that particular title would bring in a good hundred at least!
A Hards Days Night!
Did you re-record the audio into stereo? It's certianly a candidate for that!
Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on September 27, 2009, 05:06 AM:
It is not necessarily desirable, but I have "Over The Top" with Sylvester Stallone. I think it is rare however.
I have been going through my films for another clearout of titles and came across this title. It is the last 600ft only and is optical sound. I don't recall any optical (airline) prints much later than this.
Even though it is the last 30 minutes, it is almost like a digest as you pick the story up and have the conclusion at the arm wrestling tournament.
Strangely like some other optical prints from the mid-80's onwards it has some fade. This being years after LPP. Old SP stock used I wonder? I can't tell from edge markings.
I have a few other complete and part features on Super 8 to go through, I'll let you all know if I find any others I think are rare.
David
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 27, 2009, 07:36 AM:
quote:
I don't recall any optical (airline) prints much later than this.
David,
According to imdb, Over the Top was released in 1987.
There were several airline prints reported here to be released after that, i.e James Bond: "The Living Daylights" (1987), "A Fish Called Wanda" (1988), "Beetlejuice" (1988) and (probably the last airline print)"The Hunt for Red October" (1990, w. Sean Connery).
The link in this forum is here: Airline print was stil made until 1987 ! (or ?)
cheers,
Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on September 27, 2009, 07:53 AM:
Thanks Winbert.
I recall screening Over The Top in the multiplex I worked in back then in 35mm, yet this print has a copyright date of 1988!
There must have been only a few airlines with Super 8 by the late 80's.
I am halfway through running Acquasanta Joe (1971) a spagetti western in 3 x 400 format. Is this a rare one too? Who released it?
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 27, 2009, 01:01 PM:
Yes, apparantly, though Super 8 optical all but ended by late 1987 (perhaps a few in 88), the opticals continued overseas in Japan/spain and other areas that still ran super 8 optical on the flights, though the only later one I have actually seen was a "Hunt for Red October" but no releases between 1988-1990, besides the already mentioned "Hunt".
Thye sad thing is, even if there are some great 88-89-90 releases, they would be in a foreign language, and even if you found one, you would have to completely stripe the film, which would cost a butt load of money ...
... or learn that specific language!
Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on September 27, 2009, 05:40 PM:
Rare films for me are
super 8 RAISE THE TITANIC c/scope stereo feature
16mm THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE c/scope feature
35mm TITANIC (97 version) feature
A sea going man I am.
Patrick
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 27, 2009, 09:21 PM:
I would have to list my 600ft "digest" of the first 30 minutes of "Revenge of the Sith" scope/stereo. While there will be a few collectors the worldwide who'll be able to kick up the 800.00 or so dollars for the whole feature (after recording it and such), but I bet I'll be the rarer exception with a proper digest of it!!
Posted by Daniel Aveline (Member # 1714) on September 28, 2009, 01:34 PM:
My rare titles would be:
- tenessee partner(super8 2x 800')
- roustabout(6x400')
- one eyed jacks(3x400')
but what I really would like to find on super 8 is will penny.Regards.
Posted by Ricky Daniels (Member # 95) on September 29, 2009, 05:47 AM:
On Super 8mm I've one of the CE3K SE Scope feature prints and a rather worn Super 8mm Scope Feature Length print of JAWS which must be of Germanic origin as it has the U8 titles tagged on the front!
On 16mm apart from the anaglyphic 3-D complete Feature Length prints I've mentioned before... CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON 3-D, REVENGE OF THE CREATURE 3-D and The MAD MAGICIAN 3-D I now also have a complete Feature Length print of ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
Rick
Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on September 29, 2009, 09:55 PM:
Maybe it's time I answered this.....
1. Deep Throat. Yes. That one. Missing some footage and faded color. But still a gem nonetheless. It is very graphic. It is also very funny.
2. Fantasia 1940. All parts together as feature length. Begins with the actual trailer for the movie. Ends with the trailer for Fantasia 2000. Sweet!
3. Jurassic Park. Recently made brand new print in 2008.
4. Lucky Pierre. Haven't even seen this one yet because it arrived today. But sounds like campy fun.
5. Emmanuel. Yes. That one. Sylvia Krystal's first film that made her a star.
6. Three different Titanic movies all feature length in the same collection. Raise the Titanic; A Night To Remember, and Titanic by James Cameron.
7. The original scope/stereo Star Wars Trilogy. A New Hope; Empire Strikes Back [German]; and Return of the Jedi. May the popcorn be with you.
8. Fantasia 2000. You can't have the first one without the second.
9. Grease from 1978. This is the newer version in cinemascope. While this might not really be a rare print to have, I include it as one of mine, because it was the first feature I ever bought in super 8. But at the time, it was the marketing films company flat release on 4 x 400. With everything that I learned about Derek Simmonds, how powerful he was in negotiating contracts for negatives, and how he cared about us collectors as well as the hobby it's self, I believe getting the remastered 1998 anniversary version put to scope was positively brilliant. It is true that Grease is not for everyone. But this can be said for every movie ever made. They're not for everyone and Grease should be the exception.
10. Two hundred and seventy five super 8 features in my collection. Not counting DVD or 16MM. I don't know if this really counts. But a collection that big is rare for a person like me!
Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on September 30, 2009, 04:48 AM:
Its not easy to say a print is realy rare. As I started to collect Film, the most I wanted was Star Wars. Finaly I get a Derann print and I sold it later as I get a 16mm print. Now the 16mm print is also sold.
I think some of the reversal prints of unknown movies are the rarest prints on Super 8 because they exist often only one or two prints.
In the last 15 years I get every print I wanted.
The prints made me most happy was
Super 8: Star Wars (first the Marketing Version, and later Derann full feature)
16mm: IB Tech scope The Girl can´t help it and LPP Batman (1966 with Adam West)
I have in my collection many realy rare 35mm prints (for example Technicolor prints of Singing in the rain, This Island Earth, To catch a thife, breakfast at tiffanys, White Christhmas etc.) but I was no more so happy as I get the 3 features listed above.
Unfortunately from this 3 features, I own only the 16mm Batman print now, the other are sold.
Sometimes you are more happy with a no rare print than a rare one.
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 30, 2009, 09:39 AM:
My rare titles in my collection:
16mm:
Pagnol films:
Marius
Fanny
Cesar
Abel Gance:
J'accuse
Super8:
(Cartoons)
Once Upon a Time
Sunbeam
Verwitterte Melodie
Satan Waiting
Porky in wackyland
Acrobaty Bunny
Bimbo's initiation
Snow white (Betty Boop)
Molly Moo Cow & Cie
Inki and the Mina Bird
Kitty Cornered
To Spring
Bosco and the Cannibales
Bosco and the Pirates
The Old House
Clean Peasture
Cold Black and the Sebben Dwarfs
Calico Dragon
and many silent comedies in 16 and super8
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 30, 2009, 09:56 AM:
Antoine ...
Is Sunbeam that 1980's cartoon, (I've only seen screen captures) of a 1940's radio show setting with a largely black cast? If so, who put it out on Super 8? I always heard that it was a fun cartoon.
"All this and Rabbit Stew" Banned Bugs Bunny cartoon because of the black stereotypes and faded, but still kind of fun, if slightly disturbing.
Boy Chip! and I thought I had too many at 70 or 80 features!
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 30, 2009, 10:57 AM:
Osi,
Sunbeam was sold in super8 by Derann, long ago!
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on September 30, 2009, 11:09 AM:
I always forget to add to my rare list 'LOVE STORY' (on Kodak SP )and 'REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE' (on Eastman ).
[ October 04, 2009, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: Gian Luca Mario Loncrini ]
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 06, 2010, 12:59 PM:
Well, having a look at this old thread, I feel I have to change the Graemlin used for LOVE STORY...
But (and this is the good piece of news) two rare titles are coming soon...
Posted by Chris Batt (Member # 1880) on January 07, 2010, 08:56 AM:
Hi to all here, just found this site, thought I was the only one wowed by 8mm movies, I started my collection 3 years ago, my most treasured 8mm movie is the original King Kong. My partner got this for me and I was a very happy man on xmas day (2009) I use a Bolex SP8 for my movies, it has a built in speaker, which helps, I watched King Kong, well the 1st 2 reels and loved it. I'm selling my body and brain so I can invest in a better projector, it is a little clunky, but it has served me well I hope to invest in full feature movies, and will keep popping back here for ideas Well happy new year to all, and keep those projectors projecting
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 07, 2010, 11:28 AM:
Welcome to the Forum, Chris.
You will fall in love with it!
Posted by Chris Batt (Member # 1880) on January 07, 2010, 12:35 PM:
Thanks Gian
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on January 07, 2010, 12:43 PM:
Chris yes this forum is a very fun place and everyone plays nicely as opposed to others...
Posted by David Ahrens (Member # 714) on January 07, 2010, 01:47 PM:
Hi Chris
where abouts in Northern Ireland are you?
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 07, 2010, 01:50 PM:
I guess I could list my "The Geisha Boy" (Jerry Lewis) as a rare feature.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 07, 2010, 02:45 PM:
It is for sure, Osi. Never heard about this issued on 8mm ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
.
Posted by Thomas Murin, Jr. (Member # 1745) on January 07, 2010, 03:00 PM:
Brer Rabbit & The Tar Baby
Playground Skirmish (Scene from The Matrix Reloaded)
I may have others but those two are rare for sure.
Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on January 07, 2010, 06:20 PM:
Kurt, I just learned something new about Poltergeist. I did not know MGM's original strategy for this film.
"Another interesting piece of film I have is a "Poltergeist" pre-release teaser trailer featuring rather dubious interviews with "paranormal experts." At that time the studio was going more for hard-hitting horror and planned to release it with an "R" rating as indicated by the MPAA ratings card at the beginning of the trailer. There's only one scene from the film included: a quick snippet of the kids struggling against the black hole in the closet. The rest is stills."
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 07, 2010, 06:27 PM:
I know about this trailer, Greg. Simply weird. Found it a couple of months ago ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
. I did not have any idea it was a rare one.
Posted by Kurt Gardner (Member # 440) on January 07, 2010, 09:47 PM:
Yes, I think the "Poltergeist" trailer was intended for viewing by a trade organization like the National Association of Theatre Owners, and was never intended to be seen by the general public. But some clever little bugger at the lab must've thought Spielberg's name meant big business and made a reduction. I don't know who offered it on Super 8mm. Mine was attached to a used print of "Jaws" that I bought at a collector's show.
Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on January 07, 2010, 09:55 PM:
hello i would like to add my rare super 8 titles they are
ISLAND OF TERROR 4X400FT AND
NOTHING BUT THE NIGHT 4X400FT
BOTH STARRING PETER CUSHING
Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on January 07, 2010, 10:52 PM:
Yeah, NATO usually had their convention in the spring, and the studios wined and dined theatre owners, many screenings, and lots of product to push for the upcoming seasons. I'm guessing they still have a convention of this type?
Wow, finding that attached to your Jaws print was a nice find, I'm sure.
________________________________________________________________
Yes, I think the "Poltergeist" trailer was intended for viewing by a trade organization like the National Association of Theatre Owners, and was never intended to be seen by the general public. But some clever little bugger at the lab must've thought Spielberg's name meant big business and made a reduction. I don't know who offered it on Super 8mm. Mine was attached to a used print of "Jaws" that I bought at a collector's show.
________________________________________________________________
Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on January 08, 2010, 12:55 AM:
The only "rare" print I have is a stunning B/W print of "Tension at Table Rock" from 1956. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on January 08, 2010, 04:07 AM:
Oh, I forgot my optical feature of "Footloose".
I think it is a rare title, too.
Isn't it, Gian ?
Additionally to my first post in this thread there are:
- Raiders of the lost ark (Scope) (I got it)
- Indiana Jones and the temple of doom (Scope)
- Indiana Jones and the last crusade (Scope)
- Lone Wolf McQuade (optical sound)
- Rio Bravo
- Star Wars (Scope)
- The return of the Jedi (Scope)
- Titanic (Scope)
I think my reversal copy of "The great race" (with Tony Curtis, Natalie Wood and Jack Lemmon) is the rarest title in my collection. Don't know, if there is another print of it in any collection.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 05:32 AM:
Michael, dear friend, I ignore if it is.
In my collection it is for sure eh eh eh.
So rare that is not even there!
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on January 08, 2010, 06:45 AM:
Michael, you are being very naughty tormenting Gian with "Footloose"
Your print of "Rio Bravo" - is it the Classic Home Cinema release?
If it's any consolation Gian, "Rio Bravo" is my "elusive Footloose"
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 06:59 AM:
Oh well, thanks Keith.
We just have not to give up .
Posted by Bradford A Moore (Member # 426) on January 08, 2010, 07:00 AM:
I have some rare ones in my Chaney collection
super 8 By The Sun's Rays
8mm The Monster
8mm The Unholy Three
8mm West Of Zanzibar
super 8 scored Blackhawk Outside The Law
super 8 Light Of Faith
and some others
Super 8 scored Blackhawk Broken Blossoms
8mm Castle Of Doom (Vampyr)
super 8 M with Peter Lorre Very good Niles print
super 8 D.W. Griffith Interview Niles print
and most recently to my collection Variety 1926 with Emil Jannings, which isn't the Blackhawk short version.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 08, 2010, 08:32 AM:
Rare optical Super 8 features in my collection ....
Point Blank (1967, probablky from the first year optical features were produced)
The Hot Rock (Robert Redford, 1972) great heist comedy caper.
Rocky 3
Children of a Lesser God (William Hurt) Great film!
and ...
Footloose!
Hahahahaha! Just kidding Gian, don't have that one. I had a chance at a copy a year ago for 10.00 dollars but I didn't like the film in general.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 08:40 AM:
Cannot believe, Osi... You killed me .
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 08, 2010, 08:58 AM:
If only I had known at the time Gian.
I believe he sold it to someone else, but the name honestly escapes me. He had said that it was browned, so it was probably on KodakSP, but was cored. He had rolled off enough to look at it. He joked that he was going to give it to the dog as a chew toy, but of course, he didn't.
If I ever get offered another print of it, I will definitely buy it so that I can get it for you, as you are "Rescuing" me as well!
Yes folks, Gian and I know something you guys don't! nyah nyah nyah!
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 09:11 AM:
...
About FOOTLOOSE well, thanks for telling me. TOMORROW NEVER DIES !
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on January 08, 2010, 09:18 AM:
If he had given it to the dog as a "gift" and the dogs' name was "Fancy", would that have made it -
"FOOTLOOSE AND FANCY, FREE?"
Posted by Ian O'Reilly (Member # 76) on January 08, 2010, 09:27 AM:
"Lawrence Of Arabia" full feature (mag sound)
"Das Boat" "optical sound" full feature
But being a dealer did not keep them sold them on ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 08, 2010, 09:56 AM:
WOW! "Das Boat" A truly excellent film! Good to know Ian!
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 10:02 AM:
Ian, you are probably the only one who can really help me with FOOTLOOSE, considering the copy Osi had in his mind has been eaten by a dog called LADY while a TRAMP was trying to take it off her mouth!
FOOTLADY AND THE TRAMP (or LADY AND THE TRAMPLOOSE?) .
I'd add the following to my rarest:
- SUSPIRIA (Dario Argento, 1977)
- IN SEARCH OF THE CASTAWAYS (Robert Stevenson, Disney's Production, 1962)
- THE MILLION DOLLAR DUCK (Vincent McEveety, Disney's Production, 1971)
- SNOWBALL EXPRESS (Norman Tokar, Disney's Production, 1972).
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 08, 2010, 05:47 PM:
That reminds me, I have a very rare Disney feature on Super 8 optical sound ...
"The Takedown"
An almost unknown live action Disney feature from the late 70's about a high school wrestling team. Not a comedy, though it has comedy moments.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 08, 2010, 05:55 PM:
The very first PG Disney's (it was released in 1979).
Another piece of news. I did not know a 8mm optical edition of this existed .
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 08, 2010, 09:38 PM:
Give that man a big Carona Carona!
Yep, it was they're first PG film. They were very timid about releasing it as a Disney release so, though it carried they're "Buena Vista" title card, it didn't say at the beginning they're characteristic "Walt Disney Presents" on it.
It was Lorenzo Lamas's first theatrical film. His girlfriend was played by none other than "Marcy Brady" from the Brady Bunch and it even had a young Stephen Furst, (who would later rise to fame on the sci-fi TV series "Babylon 5").
I don't know how many optical features of this escaped the "chopping block" but my print is just slightly off in color, very passable. It's so rare that, except for a brief release early on, on VHS, it has never been seen on Laserdisc, DVD or Blu-ray. Even VHS copies of this tend to go for a lot. It's one of those films where a bunch of no-gooders in High School decide to join together to form a wrestling team to take on the national champions. One of those "root for the underdogs" films!
Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on January 09, 2010, 06:36 AM:
HELLO I AM A NEW MEMBER SO A REPLY WOULD BE GOOD
APART FROM THE TWO FILMS I HAVE LISTED BEFORE
I HAD A OPTICAL PRINT OF THE JAMES BOND FILM
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT LISTED
ON ANY DEALERS LIST
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 09, 2010, 08:44 AM:
I have that one two, Thomas.
Has the color held up REALLY well on your print? I ask as the color has not faded at all on my print, and I've always thought that this film is an L.P.P. print, but I've never been able to verify that.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 09, 2010, 08:59 AM:
Osi, is it possible Mel Brooks' SPACEBALLS (optical sound) was printed on Agfa or LPP? I have a copy of that and color is really fantastic. But I am not in a position to see any marks on the stock itself. Maybe you (or other members) know.
Thanks.
Posted by Hans Rennert (Member # 1768) on January 09, 2010, 01:58 PM:
My one and only rare super 8mm film is
"Operazione Paradiso" Italian, 4 reel, some fade , mag mono (poss stereo, it has two stripes?)
The US title is "Kiss the Girls and Make Them Die". It is my favorite spy movie of all time. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on January 09, 2010, 02:18 PM:
Hans,
Welcome to the Forum. That's quite a rare title to mention in your first post! I've always liked that film and in particular, the music score.
Doug
Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on January 09, 2010, 02:55 PM:
hello osi
i had to sell that bond print so maybe you have it
the colour was still good when i sold it
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 09, 2010, 03:01 PM:
Ciao Hans, and welcome to Paradise (eh eh eh).
May I ask you if the copy of OPERAZIONE PARADISO is the one posted here? Thanks and greetings from a very rainy and cold Italy !
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 09, 2010, 04:16 PM:
Gian ...
"SpaceBalls" would have to be either Kodak SP or L.P.P., as my print has also held up perfectly, but I have heard of prints of this starting to brown.
Bad eastman stock (the pinky kind) was already out of the picture, but I do know that Kodak SP was used for quite awhile on optical features.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 09, 2010, 04:25 PM:
Thanks Osi! I will screen it soon and post some pics. Ciao.
Posted by Joerg Niggemann (Member # 611) on January 09, 2010, 04:26 PM:
Titles in my collection that might be rare are:
- A+C meet Frankenstein, full length feature
- Rambo - first blood, full length feature
- Der Schatz im Silbersee („Treasure of Silver Lake“), full length feature
Posted by Hans Rennert (Member # 1768) on January 09, 2010, 05:07 PM:
I have no idea how many 8mm of 'Operation Paradise' could be in circulation. 35mm there are, at most, a half dozen; if ya wanna call it circulation. Unfortunately its got the fade. I'll do a transfer and color correct it (dub a second english audio) when (march?) I can get to it. Its the full 'director's' cut version, altho, (obviously) in italian.
As for being that exact same box, my reels are clear, and the gold sticker is not there. I did get it this fall from italy via ebay. Maybe its that one...
Just spun it a little thru an editor, haven't even projected it, too nerveous and dont have a quality projector that has the least chance to mess up the print. I was tempted to get an eumig 810 recently tho...
And yes the score for the movie is great. It seems to be in mono tho. Btw 'moonraker' was copied from this this spy 'spoof' movie.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 09, 2010, 05:14 PM:
Hans
as far as I know, just one edition issued. But I simply wanted to be sure we were referring to the same print. Sound is definitely mono, even if it has the balance stripe.
Posted by Hans Rennert (Member # 1768) on January 09, 2010, 05:39 PM:
My print is just like that one pictured. Do you have an idea of how rare it is? I wouldn't part with mine tho.
I would like to track down a 16mm version, but so far nothing. Maybe one day I'll pull some favors and screen one of the two (3?) 35mm prints I know of.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 09, 2010, 05:47 PM:
OPERAZIONE PARADISO was issued by Sagittarius. Authorized edition, but red cast to the color (in general, talking about all their issues).
All movies released by Sagittarius here in Italy are not complete (edited versions).
The movie is quite rare. But not impossible to find. A copy was for sale on Ebay some weeks ago. Ciao.
Posted by Hans Rennert (Member # 1768) on January 09, 2010, 06:01 PM:
There was originally a red cast on the print new? That explains that, thanks.
What I mean is that the bits that are edited out in the US version is in the Sagittarius version. Tho something else was cut...I'll have to run it all thru first. Looks like about 1200 ft- 80 min, out of a 106 min film. Well I got to log this puppy. Thanks again!
Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on January 11, 2010, 02:34 AM:
Keith,
I think my "Rio Bravo" is the same print as CHC released it.
It is made by German Lab, very good colour and sharpness.
Posted by Chris Batt (Member # 1880) on January 13, 2010, 02:45 PM:
Hi there David, just to let you know I'm in County Tyrone, about 5 miles outside of Dungannon
Posted by David Ahrens (Member # 714) on January 13, 2010, 04:58 PM:
Hi Chris
drop me an email it would be nice to chat to a collector in NI. you can get me at d dot ahrens at sky dot com.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 15, 2010, 06:04 PM:
I have recently (last week) found a copy of Argento's L'UCCELLO DALLE PIUME DI CRISTALLO (The Bird with the Crystal Plumage), the very first feature he directed in 1970.
It's unfortunately a terrible print on a reddish Eastman (I would probably never post any screen shots of that copy here on the forum ) but my happiness is immeasurable: another title I had been after for very longime and I did want to own on 8mm. Not interested at all in its condition.
Posted by Lars-Goran Ahlm (Member # 1908) on January 17, 2010, 04:46 PM:
I don't know how rare they are, but I have hardly ever seen any of these in used lists.
Firstly it is four features from Marketing. "Grease", "Airplane!", "One-Eyed Jacks" and "The Godfather".
I also have the two Universal/John Wayne features "The Conqueror" and "Jet Pilot".
And lastly a Harold Lloyd feature "The Sin Of Harold Diddlebock"
Have not run any of these for years, so I don't know what shape they are in.
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on January 17, 2010, 06:46 PM:
Hi Lars. I also have the two Wayne features. They were released by Universal 8 and if yours are like mine, they will have started to turn "pink". Mine are still very watchable, even if some may say that they are two of the "Duke's" worst films. If you are a Big Duke fan then you just have to have them in your collection.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 17, 2010, 09:37 PM:
I would love to find a full length Marketing print of "True Grit", as I heard that they released it as a full length feature!
Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on January 18, 2010, 01:21 AM:
Lars,
One-Eyed Jacks would be a rare print. I have come across a copy once in all my collecting years - I think it was a Derann or other UK used list.
A strange film to release on Super 8. An indulgent Brando western thought of much more highly today.
David
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