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Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 21, 2013, 04:35 AM:

Like myself im sure there are some of you who have sold a film or piece of equipment you now wish you had'nt,
Just off the top of my head for me it was my feature versions of Fright, Please Sir, That'll be the day, while none of these titles are classics each one was sold in mint condition and all on 2x800 ft spools, and equipment wise i purchased a near new Elmo ST800 for £30, it had hardly been used and without thinking sold it almost immediatly just to make a quick few quid.
The one i really wish i hadnt let go of was the Rock for Kampuchia concert on 16mm. It really was a fantastic print in every way & of course had just about every majour rock and pop star of its time on topped off with Paul McCartney with his then wife Linda in the bands background.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 21, 2013, 05:03 AM:

That's a good question Tom, and one that brings back sad memories. My list would start with "Pink Floyd- The Wall" 'scope,
"Flesh Gordon","Led Zeppelin, The Song Remains The Same"
"Scalawag",all 16mm, on 8mm "Monster of Piedras Blancas" & "Beast From
Haunted Cave" S/8, apart from loads of trl. reels & 400' digests.
A thought that helps is "You can't keep everything".

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on April 21, 2013, 05:06 AM:

Hi Tom excellent topic.

Equipment wise many years ago I purchased 2 Elmo ST1200HD's. One was in good condition and the other was a very well used machine with a noisy motor (it had a loud hum). This was purchased for £55. Also the black lamphouse cover was missing. Anyway I tried to get rid of the hum but couldnt as so the machine was largly left lying around as I had many other projectors including a GS1200 to put my best films through. It was taking up space so I decided to sell it and got £48, a slight loss. What really made me regret it was shortly after I sold it I read on this from from Kevin that you could use the rubber roller from the HD to replace the black tensioner on the GS which we all know will scratch films eventually. I thought damm why didnt I keep that HD and remove the roller and scrap the rest.

Making a small loss selling it didnt worry me because Ive got so much films and equipment for free, but having that rubber roller on my GS would have been so much better. Theres no point it taking it from a good HD and I had a scrap machine right here but I sold it [Mad]

. Oh well thats life! [Smile]

Graham S

Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on April 21, 2013, 06:23 AM:

Hugh, now I feel bad ... I want to keep everything I buy ... Can I at least try? ;-)

I regret selling all my Super 8 and Elmo ST-600M when I bought a VHS player ... Especially missing Twins of Evil 200' Walton

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 21, 2013, 06:41 AM:

Vidar, i think you are not alone there, as i remember there were many people who sold up there film collections in favour of VHS but just a few years later many of them bagan collecting 8mm again.
Hugh,The full scope feature on 16mm of Pink Floyds the wall [Eek!]

i bet that looked well good the big screen. The Monster of Piedras Blancas was also one of my other regrets, i'd forgotten that one it gets very big bucks these days, and i had the feature version to. [Frown]

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on April 21, 2013, 07:06 AM:

Sold all my Reg. 8 films as I didn't have a projector. Wasn't that many, but a few titles I regret parting with, such as "The Great Train Robbery" in pristine condition and two 400' Chaplins.

Didn't regret it for a second until a few weeks ago when I got my new Bolex 18-5 and didn't have a single reel to watch with it [Frown]

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 21, 2013, 07:53 AM:

My pristine super 8mm print of "Goldfinger" in stereo. [Frown]

[ April 22, 2013, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: Pasquale DAlessio ]

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 21, 2013, 09:01 AM:

Good topic!

Years ago, when I first collected super 8, I sold the whole collection to move into laserdisc, (yeah, I know, stupid), and I had a number of super 8 optical sound features that I have never seen another print of ... two most notably ...

The Last Unicorn
High Road to China

Now, recently ...

Strangely enough, the feature that I just sold yesterday afternoon on ebay, "2010" super 8 optical sound. I got a good price for it (165.00 doillars, 150.00 after ebays bite), but I fear that it might be the only print of that title and a rarity, but I'm comforted by owning the Derann scope feature of that same title.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 21, 2013, 09:32 AM:

Hi Osi, "High Road to China" I've seen a couple of times over here
on opt. snd.The print I've got on 16mm actually was half the price
someone was selling a S/8 print for.

Posted by Oscar Iniesta (Member # 1731) on April 21, 2013, 10:04 AM:

I have promised myself not to sell my most loved prints unless something really important would make it necessary. I am going to fight to keep at home Back To The Future, Robocop, Star Wars trilogy and Batman. They are my ticket for a time travel. A travel to a time when I was a happy kid with happy dreams. Is there enough money in the world to pay it? Not until someone make a time machine with a Delorean. [Smile]

[ April 21, 2013, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Oscar Iniesta ]

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on April 21, 2013, 12:47 PM:

My AGFA 16mm print of TALES FROM THE CRYPT.

My Sankyo Stereo 800.

Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 21, 2013, 01:04 PM:

Ahhhh, but it went to a loving home, Mike. One of my favorite movies of all time!!! [Wink]

Posted by Zechariah Sporre (Member # 2358) on April 21, 2013, 02:09 PM:

Oscar, is Back To The Future super 8 or 16mm?

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on April 21, 2013, 02:49 PM:

Yes Tom. I certainly regret parting with my beloved Norisound 320 transfixed with Schneider 1.3 lens. In the 70’s and as a very keen amateur film maker they were the perfect combination offering brilliantly crisp images edge to edge on screen with that quick pull down claw and wide shutters they were the bees knees for the film maker. Leitz were kind enough to upgrade my 120 to the 320 absolutely free of charge and what fine service the like we will never see again most certainly. Recorded sound tracks then were crisper than a packet of Walkers crisps on a Norisound and oh those Schneider lenses.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 21, 2013, 03:02 PM:

The Noris projectors are one ive never seen in the flesh,(or plastic) but they certainly seem to have a good name, also the Sankyo 800, hopefully i may catch a climps at Ealing, it looks as though my Brother myself and my lovely wife are all going to make it. Who knows, if this list gets seen by enough of us maybe there could be a few of the listed "solds" could find there way back to some of us again??

Posted by Oscar Iniesta (Member # 1731) on April 21, 2013, 04:50 PM:

My Back To The Future print is 16mm flat LPP. Like Batman. I had a small list of wanted films when I started collecting. That days, I couldn´t imagine I was going to get them. So I am happy even with a flat print. I have the rest of my life to find a scope one while I enjoy projecting these ones.
If you are looking for a super 8 print, there is a post about a print with japanish subtitles.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 21, 2013, 05:07 PM:

Hmm Hugh, perhaps I should be checking in the UK?! [Smile]

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on April 22, 2013, 04:16 AM:

Tom. Back in the day and nearly 40 years ago Norisound were a film makers dream projector but sadly the test of time has told another story. They had a number of parts which failed sorry to say including a fairly soft sound head, not very good quality control switches and underrated speed control circuit which eventually gave up the ghost, but looking back the image and sound quality from them was excellent. If you can find a little used machine they are still worth having, but not ideal for todays film collectors needing 24fps due to the fast pull down claw which will present a jumpy picture on the old vintage acetate prints.

Posted by Timothy Price (Member # 1832) on April 22, 2013, 07:56 AM:

My 1979 Les Paul. [Frown]

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on April 22, 2013, 11:55 AM:

I don't know if I should manetion anything

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 22, 2013, 01:41 PM:

Shorty ...

I know, I knopw, your print of "Life and Times of Grizzly Adams"! [Smile]

Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on April 22, 2013, 03:30 PM:

Yes, my 16mm LPP scope original print of RETURN OF THE JEDI, an 16mm IB print of THE BAND WAGON, 16mm IB print of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS (ok, I have a mint 35mm LPP print, but the 16mm IB was a little bit different).
And I´m missing a very rare uncut 35mm print of "THE CURSE OF THE DEMON", a rare 35mm IB print of "KNIGHTS AT THE ROUND TABLE", a 35mm IB Print of DODGE CITY (Errol Flynn), and a mint 35mm IB print of NORTH BY NORTH WEST.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 22, 2013, 03:41 PM:

blimy Oemer, sounds like youu has a mega selling spree

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 22, 2013, 04:01 PM:

If you mention you have a print of "The Wicker Man", I'm coming
over Oemer.

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on April 22, 2013, 04:10 PM:

Omer Was "THE CURSE OF THE DEMON" the American version? Because in the UK it was called "Night Of The Demon" and had a longer running time. It sounds like a mix of both. I bought the dvd of this and it had both versions on.

Omer how could you sell those other titles too. Love to watch "THE WAR OF THE WORLDS" but as you say got in 35mm you lucky man. I have it but 27mm less. Think I need a LONGGG weekend in Berlin [Razz]

I only ever sold two of my prints "The MacArthur Story" "Distant Drums"? It was an RKO train film, both 400ft and "The Creeping Flesh" The first two that was OK, but wish I still had that one. Whoops that's three.

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 22, 2013, 04:31 PM:

Did I mention my pristine Super 8mm stereo print of Goldfinger?

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 22, 2013, 06:43 PM:

I regret selling any Super 8 features I sold a few years ago, as I would be getting about twice the price if I was selling them now! Apart from that, I'm another member here who also regrets selling a 16mm 'Tales from the Crypt', especially as a Super 8 film I wanted in part exchange is badly faded now.

Tom - I sympathise regarding 'Rock for Kampuchia' but only wish that it was me that bought it from you! As a collector of films featuring rock music, I know what a phenomenal rarity that is.

Posted by Hal Dickens (Member # 3661) on April 22, 2013, 08:31 PM:

I regret selling my entire silent film collection when sound films came out(400 footers from Columbia and Universal 8). I felt bad years later and am still trying to get back what I once had.

Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on April 23, 2013, 01:18 AM:

Tom@ if you are not rich (I am not rich) it is not possible to get a collection with rare titles without selling something.
But they are some S8 collectors here, they paid much more for his collection than me.
For example few weeks ago someone sold on german ebay his S8 print of Alien for over 800 Euro and this is exact the same price I paid for my mint 35mm War of the Worlds print.
Ok, I know another mint print of War of the Worlds that was sold few years ago for $5000.

Hugh@ no, I don´t have "The Wicker Man" and I must say for my shame, I never watched this movie.

David@ Curse of the Damon was a rare print from the 80´s (in mint condition), this print have the US titles but it is uncut like the UK version. This was the reason that I got top $$$ for this print. For my self I never paid so much for a print. The highest price I ever paid for a print was 1250 Euro. Once I paid this amount for a IB Tech. print of George Pals The Time Machine and another one was a IB Tech. print of To catch a thief.

I thing some brand new Super 8 prints like Titanic cost the same.

[ April 23, 2013, 04:23 AM: Message edited by: Oemer Yalinkilic ]

Posted by Laksmi Breathwaite (Member # 2320) on April 23, 2013, 10:18 AM:

Pat's pristine Super 8mm stereo print of Goldfinger

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 23, 2013, 12:59 PM:

You didn't watch "Wicker Man", with all those lovelies dancing about in the nip?

One title that bears mentioning is Passquales much beloved "Goldfinger" ... and in stereo, no less! [Big Grin]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 23, 2013, 01:38 PM:

Did Pasquale really have a mint print of Goldfinger? [Big Grin]

Two other items on 16mm i do wish i hadnt sold were
Freebie and Bean & Sweeney 2, Freebie and the bean is another one of those movies you hardly ever see appear on TV.
The Rock for Kampucia concert really was a one off, for those interested take a look at this link and see the line up and all in a 1st class colour print. You can catch parts of thisd on youtube and since starting this thread i have now found a DVD at last and its coming all the way from Nashville [Cool]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_for_Kampuchea

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 23, 2013, 03:14 PM:

Fingers crossed Tom, you might be reunited. Why not place an
ad in one or more of the cine mags.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 23, 2013, 03:58 PM:

i shall do that Hugh, now, apart from the film collector from Classic home cinema which are the best ones around these days?

Posted by Adam Deierling (Member # 2307) on April 26, 2013, 04:21 PM:

SPACEBALLS!!!! Sold it back in September because I didn't have an optical sound projector. Little did I know that I would find a great deal on an Elmo GS1200. Who could of seen that! Wish I still had it....

Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on April 27, 2013, 12:59 AM:

16mm prints of "Jabberwocky" and "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". I also had some outtakes from "The Ruth Rendell Mysteries" which I used to work on as a runner and regret getting rid of those for nostalgic reasons.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 28, 2013, 02:54 PM:

Adam, id almost forgot i also sold two very good optical prints i had, Spaceballs and The Bounty, my Elmo developed an optical sound fault and i didnt want the expense of sending it away for a hanful of films so i sold, two years later i ended up sending my Elmo to Bill Parson for an overhall and it was returned witgh optical sound all working again [Mad]

, i stikll only have two short 200ft prints with optical sound.

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