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Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on July 26, 2015, 07:42 AM:
 
My self, honestly, of the proper releases, non at all except a few optical sort of new/ex airline ones they sourced.

But I did buy an aweful lot of trailers new over the years.

Best Mark.
 
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 26, 2015, 08:04 AM:
 
I think two : The Wizard Of Oz and An American In Paris. You could pay in six times.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 26, 2015, 08:24 AM:
 
I did used to buy from their second hand lists it has to be said as their feature prices tended to be out of reach for me back then with having far more pressing things my money was assigned to in those days.

I did however buy Mary Poppins brand new when they offered the pay later scheme. It took me 6 months to completely pay it off but back then I was also buying a fair amount of Super 8mm Sound camera stock which was never cheap.

I had around 30 features by the time I sold them all back to Derann.
I also had quite a lot of abridged features and 2x400ft universal prints that I bought new.
All of my collection back then was either purchased solely from Derann or from an earlier time from Jubilee Film Services.
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 26, 2015, 08:39 AM:
 
The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Gone with the wind
Sound of music full feature
Carry on abroad
Above us the waves,
The Avengers return of the cybernauts
The Avengers positive negative man
Carry on up the jungle
Gremlins, 2 x 600ft
Romancing the Stone
The fog
Grease scope feature
Star Wars
Terminator 2
The Wild Geese 3 x 400
And i am still looking for more with Silence of the lambs and Die Hard at the top of the list. [Wink]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 26, 2015, 08:42 AM:
 
Very nice collection Tom! Some absolute belters in there!! [Wink]

We will share ownership of Silence when a good one finally appears! [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on July 26, 2015, 08:58 AM:
 
Carry on Screaming
The Scars of Dracula
Those Magnificent men in their Flying Machines
The Sound of Music
Hello Dolly
All slight seconds (lab/stripe faults on at least on parts)
Romancing the Stone
Goldfinger
Lust for a Vampire (4 x 400), lab grading error print getting worse and worse (paler) by the reel.
and various other odd reels
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 26, 2015, 09:07 AM:
 
I have a couple of white box specials of Romancing The Stone reels 1 and 4. They both contain a certain amount of white flecks from the negative but otherwise are ok. The colour grading and condition otherwise is very good.

So my question to Brian and Tom is this...

On the last reel, there is a section in the film where they are in a cave, despite the colour and grading being apparently spot on, this section is so dark that the image even without a scope lens is barely visible on any machine other than the Beaulieu on two shutter mode.

Are they all like this?
This has kind of put me off really ever pursuing the missing reels or indeed finding a complete feature and keeping my odd reels as spares.

It's a film I like and it would reinstall my faith in it on 8 if I thought that mine was a one off.
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 26, 2015, 09:16 AM:
 
I shall check that this week
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 26, 2015, 09:19 AM:
 
Thanks Tom [Razz]
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on July 26, 2015, 11:49 AM:
 
Dracula 3 x 600
Genevieve 3x600
Show Boat 4x600
Singin' in the rain 4x 600
High Society 4x 600
Meet Me In StLouis 4x 600
Grease scope 4 x 600
That's Entertainment 1 4 x 600
That's Entertainment 3 4 x 600
Lady and the tramp scope 2 x 800
American In Paris 4 x 600
Shane 4 x 600
Masque of the red death scope2 x 800
First men in the moon scope 3 x 600

[ July 27, 2015, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: Paul Adsett ]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 26, 2015, 02:36 PM:
 
Fabulous selection of films. Once again, some wonderful titles there Paul including a few of my favourite musicals.

Musicals are just so very repeatable in my book, I just love em!

I can feel a "My Secret Love" moment coming on [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on July 27, 2015, 02:27 AM:
 
I've sold many on, but from memory;

The Lion King.
Aladdin.
Cinderella.
The Aristocats.
Sleeping Beauty.
The Sword in the Stone.
Beauty and the Beast.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Star Wars.
Raiders of the Lost Ark (legend has it Derann sound striped these early copies from Germany).
Star Trek Generations (an "import"!!).
Aliens.
The Terminator.
Terminator II.
Predator.
Speed.
Jack the Giant Killer.
Forbidden Planet.
The African Queen.
The Curse of Frankenstein.
The Reptile.

Not forgetting my treasured 2 x 600ft Gremlins which was my Christmas present when I was 15.

I think that's it, but my memory isn't what it used to be!!

Also, lots of shorts and a collection of about 200 trailers!
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 27, 2015, 03:27 AM:
 
Half the entire catalogue there Rob! [Big Grin]
Just add items from the classic musicals section and we are almost there!!
 
Posted by Mark Silvester (Member # 929) on July 27, 2015, 03:33 AM:
 
Hi all

I owned an awful lot of their stuff but actually bought very few "new" features as most I bough 2nd hand, etc. Some that I did by from Derann were - not necessarily their own releases either but I purchased them there:

"American in Paris"; "101 Dalmatians"; "PInnochio";"Suspicion"; "Dead of Night"; "Snow White";"Convict 99"
[Smile]
 
Posted by Luis Caramelo (Member # 2430) on July 27, 2015, 06:44 AM:
 
here,s mines:full lenghts:

-the fog.
-alien.
-star wars
-the terminator.
-the predator.
-horror of dracula.
-shane.
-singing in the rain.
-seven brides for seven brothers.
-the sound of music.
-hawk the slayer.
vampire circus.
-snow white and the seven dwarfs.
-pinochio.
goldfinger

best;

luis caramelo
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 27, 2015, 06:49 AM:
 
99% of ours were second hand, the savings then were nuts, today it would be cheaper to buy them new [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 27, 2015, 08:40 AM:
 
So who actually purchased all of these second hand prints as brand new prints seeing as it wasn't many of us on here it would seem?

Maybe Derann just threw a couple of brand new ones straight onto the second hand lists almost immediately if they were having a bad couple of months with sales! [Big Grin]

Surely Lee must have purchased quite a lot of brand new features back in the day? Any others on here who purchased plenty?
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 27, 2015, 01:43 PM:
 
Well here's my list not complete though

The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
The Avengers: Return of the Cybernauts
The Avengers: Positive Negative Man
The Avengers: Living Dead
Gremlins, 2 x 600ft
The Fog
The Wild Geese 3 x 400
Carry on Screaming
The Scars of Dracula
Those Magnificent men in their Flying Machines
Goldfinger
Lust for a Vampire*
The Reptile
Twins of Evil (Very dark)
Dracula
Scars Of Dracula
Dambusters
Lady and the tramp scope
Jason and the Argounauts.
Aladdin.
Cinderella.
The Aristocats.
Sleeping Beauty.
The Sword in the Stone.
Beauty and the Beast.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Jack the Giant Killer.*
Devil Rides Out
Quatermass Experiment
Quatermass II
Quatermass and the Pit
Lavender Hill Mob*
Island Of Terror
No Limit*
G.I. Blues* I think Derann
X the Unknown
Plague of the Zombies
The Mummy
Three Musketeers
Vampire Circus
101 Dalmatians
Snow White

Most bought new. * Used

Looking at my list Derann were top of my purchases. Walton, PM Films Powell DCR. Down a lot lower for purchases. Altough I did buy some Derann releases from PM Films if they had an offer on.
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 27, 2015, 01:46 PM:
 
Derann feature titles obtained since 2007, some obtained new, most "used" from various sources.
Some titles have since been "passed on" to fellow collectors for "safe keeping and their enjoyment".

Purchased NEW
ABYSS - Scope
ALIENS
CALAMITY JANE
CIRCUS WORLD - Scope
DAMBUSTERS
DISNEY'S TRICKS OF THE TRADE
GOLDFINGER
GREMLINS
LITTLE MERMAID
LOGAN'S RUN - Scope
MEET ME IN ST.LOUIS
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN - Scope
PREDATOR
PRINCE AND THE PAUPER
SECRET OF NIMH
SNOWMAN
TERMINATOR 2 - Scope
THAT'S CARRY ON
THUNDERBALL - Scope
WALLACE & GROMMIT - A GRAND DAY OUT
WILD GEESE

Purchase USED
BATTLE OF BRITAIN - Scope OPTICAL
CANNONBALL RUN 2 - OPTICAL
CITY HEAT - OPTICAL
CROCODILE DUNDEE - OPTICAL
DR.NO - OPTICAL
FISH CALLED WANDA - OPTICAL
FORCE 10 FROM NAVARONE - OPTICAL
FOURTH PROTOCOL - OPTICAL
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - OPTICAL
LETHAL WEAPON - OPTICAL
MEMORIES OF ME - OPTICAL
OVER THE TOP - OPTICAL
POLICE ACADEMY 2 - OPTICAL
REMO WILLIAMS - THE ADVENTURE BEGINS - OPTICAL
REVENGE OF THE PINK PANTHER - OPTICAL
ROLLERCOASTER - OPTICAL
SEA WOLVES - OPTICAL
SHOT IN THE DARK - OPTICAL
SPACEBALLS - OPTICAL
SUPERMAN 3 - OPTICAL
UNTOUCHABLES - OPTICAL

Purchased USED
101 DALMATIONS
633 SQUADRON
A NIGHT TO REMEMBER
ADVENTURES OF ICHABOD & MR. TOAD
ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD
AFRICAN QUEEN
ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES
BAMBI
BANDWAGON
CAPRICORN ONE - Scope
CRUEL SEA
DEVIL RIDES OUT
DIE HARD - Scope
DIRTY DOZEN
DODGE CITY
DRACULA - PRINCE OF DARKNESS - Scope
EASTER PARADE
ELSTREE STORY
GENEVIEVE
GIGI - Scope
GLENN MILLER STORY
HAPPIEST DAYS OF YOUR LIFE
HAWK THE SLAYER
HELLO DOLLY - Scope
HOBSON'S CHOICE
JASON & THE ARGONAUTS
JOLSON STORY
JUNGLE BOOK
KING AND I - Scope
LADY AND THE TRAMP - Scope
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN
LION KING
MAGIC BOX
MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL
MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
OH MR PORTER
ONCE UPON A MOUSE
PINOCCHIO
RAILWAY CHILDREN
RAISE THE TITANIC - Scope
REACH FOR THE SKY
RESCUERS DOWN UNDER
SAN FRANCISCO
SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS
SEVENTH VOYAGE OF SINBAD
SHANE
SHOWBOAT
SMALL ONE
SMALLEST SHOW ON EARTH
SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS
SOME LIKE IT HOT
SOUND OF MUSIC - Scope
TERMINATOR
THAT'S DANCING
THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT
THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT 2
THERE'S NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS - Scope
THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES - Scope
THREE MUSKETEERS
TILL THE CLOUDS ROLL BY
TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT
TOM THUMB
TOP HAT
TOY STORY
TROUBLE IN STORE
WAKE OF THE RED WITCH
WAR GAMES
WHISKY GALORE
WHO DARES WINS
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT
WINNIE THE POOH AND A BLUSTERY DAY
YANKEE DOODLE DANDY
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 27, 2015, 02:27 PM:
 
A few more

LITTLE MERMAID
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN - Scope
SNOWMAN
THAT'S CARRY ON
THUNDERBALL - Scope
CITY HEAT - OPTICAL
SEA WOLVES
633 SQUADRON
BAMBI
DIRTY DOZEN
DRACULA - PRINCE OF DARKNESS - Scope
JUNGLE BOOK
RAISE THE TITANIC - Scope
RESCUERS DOWN UNDER
TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT
 
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on July 27, 2015, 03:27 PM:
 
New

Blood on Satans Claw
Quatermass Xperiment
Quatermass 2
That'll be the Day
Night of the Living a Dead
The Smallest Show on Earth
Clara's Heart Optical
The Golden Seal Optical
I don't want to be Born
Dracula Prince of Darkness
Plague of the Zombies
The Devil Rides Out
Lust for a Vampire
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 27, 2015, 03:34 PM:
 
Keith's Aladdins cave never ceases to amaze me!

One look at Keith's collection both past and present and you simply cannot help but be smitten for life with S8 film!

His list is of titles is simply incredible!!!

Definitely a kid in a sweet shop moment when viewed! [Smile]

David appears to be leading the way in actual new feature films purchased in the actual era they were released.
 
Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 27, 2015, 03:58 PM:
 
I had never heard of Derann before the internet, so I arrived late to the party. In 2000, I received an email from my credit card company telling me my credit limit had increased; the very next email was news that Derann was having a 20% discount sale on new prints. I purchased THE WIZARD OF OZ, HELLO DOLLY, THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME, and DIE HARD all in a single order. That was my first and last purchase of new prints from Derann (which is fine, because those were the only titles I really wanted).
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 27, 2015, 04:21 PM:
 
All very nice titles just the same Paul. Not a bad one amongst them! [Smile]
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 28, 2015, 02:37 AM:
 
I think there is a little confusion here. Are we talking buying Derann releases (F/L) or buying FROM Derann....??

For the later I don't see any point here, because we can buy them from any dealers.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 28, 2015, 03:57 AM:
 
It started out as a post asking how many brand new full length features were purchased by individuals from Derann Winbert.
It has now included collectors telling us their entire Derann feature lists that includes second hand and abridged feature prints.

It's nice to see other collectors collections, so as its just a bit a fun to list the prints, I don't suppose it really matters ultimately where they were purchased from, just the fact that they're all originally Derann features.
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 28, 2015, 03:35 PM:
 
I did buy most of my stuff new, not only from Derann. Sometimes the other dealers had a better deal on.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 28, 2015, 09:17 PM:
 
quote:
It started out as a post asking how many brand new full length features were purchased by individuals from Derann Winbert.
Not meant to killing your joy, but the topic's subject itself saying "How Many New Derann Features did you buy ?"

It clearly says that we are invited by the thread starter to share:

1. New
2. Derann Feature (only)

We are very often dragging the topic out of the original intention.

This is not meant to limit if somebody wants to open a new thread "How many your second hand F/L did you buy"...but just stick to the topic.
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 05:15 AM:
 
Has a new moderator been appointed? I rarely post here now, so perhaps I have missed something......

I don't see any complaints from the original postee re the "hijacking" or "expansion" of his topic.

I thought the idea of the forum was to discuss "film"?

Surely this should not be taken to the extent of discussing only "the chemical properties of the item in question" (subject to that being the "thread" title of course).

Let's keep the discussion and variations with topics on a light hearted, interesting basis not "written in tablets of stone"

How long before grammar, spelling and punctuation are bought to the forefront?

Will we have to submit "posts for editorial approval" before allowing "public" viewing?

Perhaps I shouldn't say that as I am not a "moderator" [Smile]

[ July 29, 2015, 06:53 AM: Message edited by: Keith Ashfield ]
 
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on July 29, 2015, 05:41 AM:
 
Lighten up Winbert!!!

Surely ALL film related discussion is good isn't it?

I'm loving this thread so please don't spoil it
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 29, 2015, 07:41 AM:
 
Keith, you have not been here for quite long so perhaps you do not follow the recent trend in this forum that many topics have been getting out of the original subject. These have made some members to be sicked and tired.

I am not the moderator but I don't see any wrong to remind each others.

Good luck!
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 08:19 AM:
 
Winbert - I may not post here very often (for various reasons I won't go into) but I do follow the forum on a daily basis and I am quite well aware of the fact that topics can be "hijacked" but surely this is a matter for the original thread poster to pass comment on?

If Mark is quite happy with the way his original thread discussion is progressing (and I have no way of knowing if this is true or not - perhaps Mark would like to comment?) then where's the problem?

Conversations in normal life will often encompass many "subjects" that differ from the original "Good morning - how are you?".You would not reply to that question with -

"I am very well thank you - please start a new topic?"

This post may have "blossomed" from the "original flower" but it is still proving a very interesting "floral" display to most members.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 29, 2015, 10:18 AM:
 
Keith, from Mark's first post below, although English is not my first language.....
quote:
My self, honestly, of the proper releases, non at all except a few optical sort of new/ex airline ones they sourced.

But I did buy an aweful lot of trailers new over the years.

...don't you feel he was talking new full features released by Derann ("proper release"), but Mark did not buy them except those new trailers?
 
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on July 29, 2015, 10:19 AM:
 
Nice one Keith 😊😊
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 10:51 AM:
 
Winbert - of course Mark was refering to "Dearnn releases bought NEW. Of that there is no dispute. however if fellow collectors choose to expand their reply to cover "used" titles they have also bought is, that a problem?

As I said, if Mark wants members replies to be pedantically correct then surely he is the one to raise the issue?

If the post has not veered off into "the sublime or the ridiculous", as I know some posts in the past have, then surely any reference to one's collection is purely a "personal one" - willing to share that information with fellow collectors cannot be detrimental to the subject content.

After all we are on a "film forum" not collating info for the Library of Congress.

Best regards.
 
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 29, 2015, 10:52 AM:
 
Threads can evolve without being considered to be hijacked. That's just normal human conversation. I've seen threads go from film-talk to hate-speech in the long past: now that's hijacking.

Technically I've never bought a new Derann feature, but after years of me saying how much I'd like to have a print, my wife bought me a brand new "Toy Story" towards the end of new Derann prints. It was a nice present!

It actually came with a bonus: when (I thought) it showed up I found out they sent me a print of "Hunchback of Notre Dame" by mistake. So for that weekend it was as if I rented a film! (It could have cost me dearly if it was a film I really liked.)

Given enough time, there were more I would have bought. That six months no interest made a lot of things possible that would have been budget-busters otherwise.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 29, 2015, 12:06 PM:
 
Keith, in many forums, there is always a misconception that the thread starter is the owner of the thread, so everything is up to him/her. i think, we, member can also criticize the thread if there is something not correctly written according to the forum's rule. It is not always moderator doing this but it is always moderator who will decide whether this attitude can be continued or must be stopped.

Now back to my critic, if you meant that to share what films member own, no matter Derann or from other companies we have had that thread, so you or anyone can keep this thread alive by continuing here rather to make a new one:

How Many Films Do You Own On Super 8?

Moreover, if we want to share ONLY Derann releases that members own, no matter used or new, this forum has had also for that particular thread below:

What Derann's do you own?

Now, Mark Todd has started something new that I see the merit. He (and now myself) wanted to see what NEW Derann features have member purchased. For me this is quite interesting to see how dare is members here to spend that a lot of money for fulfilling his/her hobby habits.

But now with a mixed reply between used and non Derann....I could not find that ...that is why I am criticizing the out of topic trends here.

Hope you understand.

Cheers

[ July 29, 2015, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 12:32 PM:
 
Winbert - I am well aware of those previous threads, having already contributed to them, however, you are missing a very important factor here.

You are the only forum member (so far) that has a problem with the content of the thread.

Unfortunatly what has now happened is that Mark's thread has, in effect, been "hijacked" because of the comment in your post regarding the the "extra" content in the post, which a majority of the contributors have no problem with. Other contributers to this thread have an obvious interest merely by the fact that they have taken the trouble to post replies, albeit their replies happen to fall into the "grey" spectrum rather than your ideal "black or white" spectrum.

I will take this time to apologise to Mark and other forum members for being a participant in this "hijacking".

Let the thread get back on topic.

Hop many NEW Derann features have you bought Winbert?
 
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 29, 2015, 01:27 PM:
 
So a thread has been hijacked by discussion of hijacking?

Maybe we need a new "hijacking" thread, just hoping people stay on topic, and not turn it into a film-thread

I guess it's not a good time to mention what I would have bought eventually had Derann stayed at it.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 29, 2015, 01:29 PM:
 
Keith if you were aware of that previous thread why you were not using it but rather writting here that is off from the subject meant to be.

Now to answer your question (and also Mark's), no I have not had NEW DERANN releases.

Cheers,
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 02:09 PM:
 
Winbert - Sorry you have not had the pleasure of purchasing NEW Derann features.

It would be remiss of me to take up anymore "forum space" that is obviously "off-topic". We have both aired our opinions and I would like to allow the thread to resume its "purpose", whatever the contributors may add to it whether it be to member/forum etiquette or not.

I will return from whence I came and enjoy the varied content of the forum as an observer. I stand by my comment that the forum is, in my opinion, here for enjoyment of film, not the pedanticism of the content being posted.

Again, my apologies to Mark and fellow members for allowing myself to partake in the "hijacking of a thread," by daring to disagree with a fellow member and "Film God". [Smile]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 29, 2015, 02:21 PM:
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by John Hourigan (Member # 111) on July 29, 2015, 02:32 PM:
 
I think the direction of this thread only serves to validate Paul Barker's use of the word "obsession" from another thread.........
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 29, 2015, 02:33 PM:
 
I bought some brand new sandwiches from the supermarket the other day, I eat them whilst I was watching a feature film I bought new from Derann a long time ago, but half way through the movie I was hijacked by the SAS, I found my own back though, does that count [Big Grin] [Wink]
Anyway, carry on as you were chiefs
 
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on July 29, 2015, 02:37 PM:
 
The expansion of the topic seemed organic to me. Conversation tends to flow to related subjects, however it normally returns to the original theme. There are times when the discussion gets so removed from the topic that I will post a reminder, however I never felt this thread had been knocked off course until it became a discussion of hijacking. If members feel the need to pursue that particular topic, please start a new thread.

Now we can return to our purchases of Derann features. I bought most of mine used from Derann, however I did order from Gary brand new prints of Lady and the Tramp and Master and Commander. Not very good as a double feature. [Smile]

Doug
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 03:27 PM:
 
Doug - My use of the word "hijacking" was used in the context of replying to a comment made by a fellow member about the "topic content" being, in his opinion, "abused" and irrelevant to his understanding of the post title.

My comment was,in my opinion, that "conversations should be allowed to "flow organically" and not be "regimented" by pedantism. In making my comment, along with other members, I felt that the course of the "flow" was, in my opinion, moving away from the subject in question, which was, I feel, what my fellow commenter was intimating would happen when we "diviate" from the "precise wording of the thread title".

By your own admission, you agree with fact that topics can and will vary during their course, and should not be allowed to go "too far off-topic", otherwise the moderator would step in. This is what I wanted to avoid by continuing to remonstrate with a "psuedo-moderator".

As I said previously, if anyone has been offended by the term "hijacking" then I apologise profusely. It was never my intention to "upset" the "forum applecart", by stating that.

Topics do benefit, in most instances, by "flowing" and not being "restrictive", which, in my opinion, can result in a very short topic content.

However - "Que sera sera"
 
Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on July 29, 2015, 03:31 PM:
 
Nice one Tom, as thread origionator ( so to speak )as for me you can talk about your budgie being slightly off colour, or your underpants being a bit too tight today !!! if you want to, mixed in with ther filmie bits.

These things open up and on here it always feels like a group of friends having a right old rattle on.

Its all interesting anyway, nice to see the opticals pop up and other bits.

Thing is just as I got properly in to film, I also got properly in to the ladies, then babies, and so on, so a number of times I nearly went for new features, that now I really wish I had done.

I remember being offered a mint unused GS1200 and was going to on the sneaky go for it, but on one of the phone calls the EX overheard me. So that went quickly down the pan.

Similarly I had a nasty habbit of humming the film music of good things I was going to sneaky buy so was regulary rumbled and down they came in flames ( almost !!! oooerrr ).

Still have 3 kids ( the a fair bit older one is 22 but going on 13 ) so features are still out of the question so its still just trailers and a few shorts for me. But real film is my absolute first love but my film watching is now dosed with reality.

I`d love to have bought

Predator
Silence of the Lambs ( hired it from Derann once )
All Hammers.
T2
Highlander
Jack the Giant Killer and
Jason and the argonauts to start with. ( had the Talos scene though )

Best Mark.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 29, 2015, 03:35 PM:
 
I complete agree Keith. For some time now I have said that the term hijacked is an overused term on here for what often is nothing more than natural progression of a subject under discussion, just as occurs in natural face to face conversation.
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 03:52 PM:
 
Andrew - Thank you for your "comment".

However, if you agree shouldn't this be done by starting a "new topic" [Eek!]
 
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 29, 2015, 04:00 PM:
 
What were we talking about?
 
Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on July 29, 2015, 04:01 PM:
 
I forgot that one Doug, I would have loved to have Master and Commander, what a film.

Best Mark.
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 29, 2015, 04:23 PM:
 
I also came very close to getting this feature, unfortunately i did have to pull out purely because of a lack of funds at that time. now i do wish i had put it onto a credit card. It would have been one of the few brand new Derann features i would have had. Now im guilty here of not reading the original topic properly, brand new features of Deranns for me were only the lion king beauty and the beast, all the rest were bought as second hand from Derann, having said that the enjoyment of watching is just the same but by spending the equivalent of a small fortune less.I was looking at an old price list from the early 80s, you most certainly had to have been privileged or very wealthy to have bought many brand new. [Wink]
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 29, 2015, 04:33 PM:
 
Tom - Probably the best and cheapest way of obtaining NEW Derann titles, at a "bargain price" was when attending the various Film Conventions and Derann's Open Days. There were always "bargains" to be had then.

I have to say that I have attained my "NEW" Derann features since 2007.

I agree with you that back in the 1980'S it was a "mortgage" job for most of us.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 29, 2015, 04:39 PM:
 
Either that or a cocaine snorting MP receiving £200 a day expenses of tax payer's hard earned whilst sporting a pink bra! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 29, 2015, 04:45 PM:
 
i guarantee if we had attending our collection would be much larger, second biggest regret was when i attended our first one i turned down the chance to buy independence day for just £150. i have no idea what i was thinking, on the upside we did find a full length feature of forbidden planet for £50.
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 29, 2015, 04:55 PM:
 
My Jason and the Argonauts was I suppose used, but new bought just after the Columbia releases were pull. I was told it was brand new and it looked like it had never been projected. Usually tell how they are wound on the reel and the leaders were still taped down.

There are still a number of both features and shorts I want. And not only Derann titles.
 
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on July 29, 2015, 05:14 PM:
 
To answer the topic question.....none.
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on July 29, 2015, 05:31 PM:
 
The Rescuers Down Under...Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King...all brand new [Wink]
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 29, 2015, 08:33 PM:
 
Good to see you here Doug.

Good to see you Keith writing more and more in this forum after your claim to have status as an observer one hour earlier.

Good to see other members who have given the right responses to the subject.

I just want to make my self clearer: If the list included those Derann releases purchased from second hand list, I agree, that is called "the expansion of the topic". But if the responses give other than Derann releases that is just like someone asking "How Many Blackhawk releases did you buy ?" and the answer is "I have 5 Tom & Jerrys" which is obviously not Blackhawk releases.

This can be misleading to new readers/collectors. Please remember, super 8mm collectors are not only us who have bunch of knowledge but those new comers who will think that "The Untouchable" is also Derann release just because of reading this thread.

Sorry for bold and italic, but I just want to make it clearer what is the disadvantage of this OOT if we continue doing this.

Now back to the topic please.

thanks,
 
Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on July 29, 2015, 09:27 PM:
 
Good points Winbert, and hopefully everyone will be nice now [Smile] .

Features I purchased brand new/sealed from Derann are :

Alien
Aliens
Star Wars (this one I purchased reel-by-reel)
The Abyss
Independence Day (this one was new, but discounted price due to sound stripe issues).

James
 
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on July 30, 2015, 02:41 AM:
 
Sometimes I wish I had bought Star Wars, mainly when the original version was not proposed be to released again only the special edition. It was on offer at an open day, but then so was Goldfinger which I did buy because I heard that the negative would only be good for a limited number of prints. I think I made the right choice as I had both extracts of Star Wars and there was never a cut down of Goldfinger.
 
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on July 30, 2015, 03:44 AM:
 
quote:
Good to see you Keith writing more and more in this forum after your claim to have status as an observer one hour earlier.
Absolutely correct and so precise, Winbert - AS ALWAYS....

It is quite comforting to know that my "infrequent contributions" and the reasons thereof are justified.

An observer I will be - far less strain on my blood pressure.

I know my place.....
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 30, 2015, 04:11 AM:
 
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi

Bought new.
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 30, 2015, 01:04 PM:
 
I only bought one full feature from Derann, "STAR WARS", way back in 1989, I think, (that was when I first collected super 8, and not the "return engagement" on 2002).

I was soon to buy "Close Encounters", but it was discontinued a day before I was to send off de money, (sniff)
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on August 03, 2015, 06:20 PM:
 
Bought a few features new from Derann before I received the Masonic cine invitation that certain dealers would buy new features on my behalf and sell to me at a discounted price.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 03, 2015, 10:03 PM:
 
quote:
the Masonic cine invitation that certain dealers would buy new features on my behalf and sell to me at a discounted price.
Mike, I don;t get it. So some dealers bought on your behalf and re-sell to you at discounted price...how did it work?
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on August 04, 2015, 02:09 PM:
 
Hi Winbert

20% discount on Derann list price so a feature costing £250 was £200

Mike
 
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on August 04, 2015, 03:42 PM:
 
Meaning that the dealer bought wholesale from Derann but didn't put on much of a mark-up?
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on August 04, 2015, 03:51 PM:
 
The dealer got a price from Derann that was considerably more than the discount
they passed on to me.
 


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