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Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 26, 2016, 08:04 AM:
GoodMorning ELMO's Fans,
I have just received my GS1200 "PCOM"............ Bought for 330Euros only (Shipping costs included !!!) on a Typical "French" Site (NOT EBAY !!!)
It looks nice and clean conditions, seems to work normally , however I had not enough time to check all functions and possibilities.
I am very surprised !! : It's a very, very heavy machine (something like 20 Kg) and highly sophisticated.
At first glance, Electronic Systems are more advanced than My Beaulieu , then Electronics Material looks much better quality (This is just a feeling at this time)
The dark point is the "User Manual" furnished : It's only compatible with GS1200 "Standard". Nothing is mentionned for "PCOM" module setting.
Is it normal ?
Do somebody have document(s) concerning "PCOM" Functions ?
Thanks in advance
NB: When possible I put some pictures of it (Inside / Outside)
[ October 27, 2016, 03:32 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 26, 2016, 10:40 AM:
Congratulations Phil on your new GS1200. These are wonderful machines when fully maintained. Very well built with no flimsy plastic bits, and really made to 16mm projector quality. Reliability can be an issue due to the complexity of the elctro-mechanical logistics, but all this means is that you nay at some point have to replace some relays and/or micro-switches that are still available. The film path may scratch if you do not replace the front green film guide. The good news is that the sound head will last just about forever, being made of a very hard magnetic alloy.
Good luck, and enjoy this great machine.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 26, 2016, 11:06 AM:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for these informations.
However "PCOM" is the ultimate GS1200 version , and seems to be very rare to find (Paradox ?)
Electronic is more or less different for this one.
And the "PCOM" module functions are a mystery (for instance)......
Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 26, 2016, 11:12 AM:
Phil
This old thread may help you.
http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001027
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 26, 2016, 11:16 AM:
congratulations Phil. I hope your PCom still functions as it should and you enjoy this machine.
The GS does have many more motors and electronics,plus a heavier chassis overall than a Beaulieu, hence the additional weight.
As Paul points out, these can scratch when guides are worn so that is something you will have to build your confidence with over time.
It's is also worthy of note, it is not just the input guide on these that can be problematic after many years of use and wear.
There are up to seven potential black spots I'm reliably led to believe, so great care must be taken at all times and regular thorough examinations of the potential danger zones will be necessary.
Other than that, enjoy my friend! 😊😊
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 26, 2016, 12:20 PM:
Hi Andrew,
I have played a "Test" short movie. The picture is very nice and stable, very good sound.............. and NO scatches are observed.
I have inspected the "nasty" guides, none of them show extra wear.
It seems this machine doesn't accumulate many operating hours....
Maurice, I understand the "Motorola" processor looks to be the "darker" point (further investigation to be done).
Also, just to play a movie without having to make specific recordings, BEAULIEU is a quiter machine easier to maintain
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 26, 2016, 12:25 PM:
Well that can only be a good thing for you Phil in your quest with this one.
Stay vigilant my friend, at all times!😉
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 26, 2016, 12:34 PM:
Both eyes full open, never asleep.....
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2016, 02:25 PM:
330 euro's???? wow that is a great price and a lot of projector. Well done.
Be good to see a couple of pictures later on?? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 27, 2016, 03:24 AM:
Hi Tom ,
Some pictures :
Left Side Panel..........
Front Deck (Cover opened and some functions activated).
Counter is very efficient (Times or Frames can be selected, as necessary)
Lens 1.0 (???)
At this time, I have no idea how the "PCOM" module works (The "Add On" document wasn't furnished)
Is there any user to explain me how it works ?
I have an "emergency" work to carry out : The (nasty) Heads Holder is in terrible condition (multiple cracks & internal corrosion) even this is not obvious at first glance (Has to be replaced or.......Fully Reworked !!) :
I don't know if this part is still available.......
In fact, the weight of this machine is exactly 19,1kg (Ouffff)
The Bottom (PCOM Module) is full of components (A Main Card plus a secondary linked to the plugs, plus the card dedicated to the Command)
The main cards is showing many small processors (15 or 16 pins) and the big one is not "Motorola"(May be Mitsubishi) and seems to be something which needs to be loaded with instructions.
Either PCB's (Double lays Epoxy) and Electronics components seems to be High Grade matérial
To follow
[ October 31, 2016, 06:37 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 27, 2016, 05:30 AM:
It's a thing of real beauty Phil,is the old P COM that's for sure!
Purchased for an outstandingly low price if it is still all fully functioning. Well done once again Phil with this one!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 27, 2016, 10:38 AM:
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your comments.
Sometimes, things we treasure offer a funny background to complete the story
To give you more détails, When I found the advert it wasn't indicated any price at all.....
Just a "dark" picture appeared , I had to raise up brightness of my screen.....to figure what's going on !!
So calling up the vendor, I understood he wasn't the main owner. The (very old ?) original owner (His father in law) had passed away a few times ago.... Former's owner wife was cluttered up with all that stuff (The vendor told me she scrapped many films .....!!! Ouffff)
So I had just to make an offer ,300 E (Plus 30E Shipping Costs).... I could offer less, it should make same effect.
Also , this machine come from far away in south of France.
I had a pleasant conversation at phone with the vendor.....
[ October 31, 2016, 06:39 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 27, 2016, 11:49 AM:
Well it really couldn't have fell into better hands Phil to give it a whole new lease of life!
From what I've seen of it, you have all the necessary skills to keep this beautiful machine alive and well for many many years to come. The lens alone can sell for £250 at times so you have stumbled upon one of THE best bargains there, that I've personally ever seen.
I wish you well with it Phil and many many hours of wonderful screening from it in the years that lie ahead! 😊😊
Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 27, 2016, 11:49 AM:
Good find Phil. Never seen one of these before, is it a telecine machine ?.Its a series 3 base machine but I would be concerned about the sound head and more to the point how and where its been stored, definitely a good look inside and check over before powering it up. Great find though especially at that price.
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 27, 2016, 11:53 AM:
They are a standard 3 bladed GS 1200 Paul, not intended for Telecine use (no 5 blade shutter plus standard lamp in these).
All will be MK 3 versions when found as these were some of the very last deluxe models made by Elmo to give even more advanced recording facilities to their armoury.
It was a little like a S940 at the time, only better still!
The desk on these adds significant sophistication to what was already the most complex Super 8mm Projector ever made and if you manage to find all the extra instruction and service information for one of these, which now is difficult to find,
You surely have one of THE best recording tools ever to be seen on Super 8mm!
This machine is well worth all the effort and TLC it can be given to restore it further to all of its former glory!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 27, 2016, 12:15 PM:
Andrew, 250Euros for lens 1.0 .......Oufff , is it realy justified
Paul, reading head is in pretty good condition,however the head carrier is terrible (Alloy low quality grade).
There is no "classical" damp evidences (I mean corrosion on srews, for exemple)
When possible, I come back with pictures from PCOM Module electronics cards and structure
[ October 28, 2016, 03:14 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 27, 2016, 12:53 PM:
I wonder if the previous owner had used generous amounts of cleaner or lube on the film regulary, hence the build up and corrosion of this metal/alloy, this part is plated with nickel plating, I wonder where the bits have ended up in the machine though, perhaps if the machine was not cleaned as well inside, the oxide from the sound stripe could turn into a slurry that would stick to everything, and could certainly build up in this area. Can you get a clearer picture phil please, I would like to see what this has done to this metal part.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 27, 2016, 01:08 PM:
Paul, I do my possible to post an enlarge and more precise picture from this part.
My feeling is that this projector doesn't accumulate lot of hours, as the former owner used it for family movie merely.
(As I can observe by the plastic guides conditions as witnesses)
The material used for the Head Carrier is probably Zamac Alloy (Zinc / Alluminium) which turn to "cancer" over time...
NB
Can anybody confirm me or not if this carrier is exactly the same design on ST1200 and interchangeable? ???
May I can open a TIP just for this particular point
[ October 27, 2016, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 03:07 AM:
Hi Paul,
I am back with some closed pictures from Heads Carrier.
Terrible, I nicknamed it "Omaha Beach" !!
We can see corrosion pushing up below NiCd Coating
Fortunately, ONLY this part from the machine is showing this condition (May be a factory defect !!!)
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 28, 2016, 04:23 AM:
Might be a job for Edwin, Phil.
If one can look like this, surely others could go the same way.
Wouldn't be too difficult to replicate by the looks of things. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Failing that of course, there is always an ultrasonic cleaning bath for such things, so long as the coating isn't of too much importance to you.
Film path guide built in contains a crack or two though from what I can make out from the photo.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 05:50 AM:
Andrew, that could be interesting providing Edwin can work with CNC Milling Machine.
That could be "cloned" from aluminium or brass material (No steel due to heads proximity....)
But what about the cost, this is an other story.....
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 28, 2016, 05:52 AM:
I was simply thinking of a 3D print Phil, or perhaps would this not suffice?
As for costs Phil, even if you decided to have one milled from a small aluminium block, does it really come into it for a machine of this excellence if everything else can be made A1 for reasonable expenditure?
These were an incredibly expensive machine when new and in today's money would be well over £5000, probably nearer to 10K!
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 28, 2016, 06:28 AM:
Phil that is a great bargain and a lovely looking machine.
I am sure that Leon Norris will have a head holder for you,
I could be wrong here but i think the head holder may be the same as the ST1200HD, i only say this as i recently purchased two brand new head pressure pad assembly's from Leon and these are definatly the same as the HD so the actual part you need may also be the same, He will surly let you know, or confirm first with Mr Parsons.
A great purchase at that price though.
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 28, 2016, 06:34 AM:
Now you come to mention it Tom, from memory, I'm sure you may be right!
Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on October 28, 2016, 07:09 AM:
This machine makes me drool...You've done very well Phil!
As for the head piece...I have never seen brass(or bronze) crack like that??? Must be some weird alloy inside.
Brass is a mixture of copper and tin, whereas Bronze is copper and zinc. both metals could potentially contain small proportions of other elements including arsenic, phosphorus, aluminium, manganese, and silicon, which could crack over time, but as you mention, this looks like a factory blemish.
I cannot see why this part could not be made by Edwin, should Leon not have one(which is unlikely he wont). Is there a reason it needs to be heavier?
What a great looking machine. That 1.0 lens is worth the price alone almost...
Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 28, 2016, 07:35 AM:
It looks like chrome or nickel plating. What's more concerning is what has caused this ?. I would remove the flaky bits completely as best as you can, leaving no bits. The curved metal guide does not appear to have suffered any damage which is odd, so perhaps it was a badly coated part form the factory ?.It does nothing but hold the sound heads and guides, so I think it could be reused with out any danger of damage to the film. I believe this is aluminium/mazack, a high pressure die casting because of the flash lines around the edges, then machined after. Some times the alloy starts oxidizing under the plating we maybe seeing this. But its better without it Phil.
Posted by Bill Parsons (Member # 244) on October 28, 2016, 07:48 AM:
Just thought I would mention that this head holder casting is not the same as the ST1200HD, also it is much better to fit the original metal type, as these holders have friction on them with a small roller pushing the film down onto the holder, I have seen them wear flat after many, many hours of use.
Leon Norris does have some, make sure you ask for a mark 2 holder (for backward loop) as the mark 1 is not the same.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 08:09 AM:
Hi Bill,
Thanks for these détails.
Have you got a picture for ST1200 Carrier (I understand there are some differences, may I can manage with that)
Thanks in advance
_________________________________________________________________
Andrew, considering this part, I have a quite simple idea :
If this part is "still" available as brand new and at reasonnable price, I can buy it......
If available at "de-reasonnable" price, I manage to machine it from an aluminium bloc (AU4G, AG5....) including upgradings (tiny roller-bearings for exemple...)
I need ,at least , 3 days of M/H to work out the main part....
Alternative solution is to strip off an "old" ST1200 and to pick up the parts providing it's in good condition.
Moreover the picked up parts needs any change to fit properly on GS1200 (as I understood from last reply posted)
Phil
NB
Who is Leon Norris ?
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 28, 2016, 08:26 AM:
Phil, Leon Norris is 'Mister Elmo USA'. He is an expert in GS1200 repair and restoration, and has an extensive inventory of spare parts. Leon is a great guy with a real love of the GS1200, and he loves to talk on the phone!
His number in the USA is 610-272-3205
I'm sure he will have the part you need.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 08:40 AM:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your answer.
Does Leon lives on East Coast or West Coast (Time lag is quite different for me).
May be I can send him an Email , if available....
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 28, 2016, 09:14 AM:
Thanks to Bill with his expertise and then Leon hopefully with his excellent spares inventory, it looks like things may be all sorted for you here Phil!
What a great forum this really is!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 09:31 AM:
Andrew, the best from my side, is to send a Email to Léon, as I can join pictures for specific points.
I do not speak English so often I write, so speaking with him is a very good idea but even he speaks without any "accent" , this is for me like a second level in difficulties.
Anyway , I can try...
NB
I have just found a TIP here concerning Leon . It seems he doesn't work too much with Email.
However His line is coupled with a fax, so I can try to send a fax from my mail box.
Then, a problem is he only accepts cash (or check).......nothing is easy
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 28, 2016, 09:38 AM:
If you want to communicate with Leon by e-mail you are going to need to ask him directly for that.
I e-mailed down there a few months ago and he called me on the phone (...no surprise) and started asking me questions about the problem. I asked him "Did you read my E-mail?" and he said "Oh, I never touch that. My wife told me to call you."
I have to give him a lot of credit, he did his best to help me.
(Don't worry about accents, everybody has one!)
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 09:43 AM:
Thanks for your reply Steve.
What about time Lag ?
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 28, 2016, 10:09 AM:
Well,
He (and I) are about six hours behind you if you mean time zones.
If you mean response time, you'll probably hear back within a day or two.
Leon's medium is definitely the telephone, he may insist on calling you.
Steve Osborne used to respond to e-mails with post cards. Lately he's taken to responding to e-mails with e-mails: takes some of the fun out of it! Usually the mail is just bills: it's nice to get something happy for a change!
(-some day I may send HIM a postcard just to see what he does!)
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 10:16 AM:
Steve, 6 hours time lag is perfect (Same lag than "French Indies")
I have to calculate what is the best period for calling , taking account USA working/opening hours.
Back to the works involved by this machine and considering that "PCOM" module is a "touchy" Item (could be hard to repair if it fails) , taking account age of the "Vintage" machine, I plan to replace all Electrolitics Caps in "preventive and primary" action , especially for strategic areas (Power Inputs, Filters around processors, etc...) .
This is what I did on My Beaulieu 708EL ST (More than 42 Caps replaced = 3 days M/H approx) and I am happy for the pay back....
[ October 28, 2016, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 28, 2016, 12:56 PM:
Phil, just called Leon and he has the NEW part you need. He said he can be reached by phone anytime from 10am to 5pm EST.
I gave him your name so he has a heads up.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 01:04 PM:
Thanks Paul,
This is a great new....
I let you know upon my calling.
Sometimes , I ask myself why days lasts 24 hours only....
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 28, 2016, 01:48 PM:
I have the parts books for both the HD and GS series, i will see if they are the same, if they are then it should be easy to get a new one or good second hand one.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 28, 2016, 02:35 PM:
Tom, this is a good way ....
I tried to find something in "GS1200 Service Manual" , available on the Web , parts are well illustrated but there is no chart showing references for any part.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 29, 2016, 08:45 AM:
OK, follow me on this, hopefully it will make sense,
Picture one here is from the Parts book of the Elmo ST1200/D/HD here, look at item 30, this is the head holder,& the part number is 4P20608
Now look at this next image which is from the GS1200 Parts book,the part number is also 4P20608 so they are the same holders and pressure pads as fitted in the Elmo D/HD projectors. At least this may help finding one as there are many of these machines around. Hope this is of help for you
If you want me to email you these full size let me know as having to reduce them on here makes them a lot less in quality.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 29, 2016, 08:59 AM:
Hi Tom, Thanks for your researchs , very helpfull (That gives me more ideas) !!
More détails and pictures.......
A) S/N : 300077 (To give an idea of manufacturing era)
B) Back Cover removed
C) Bottom Plate Removed
D) Closed Picture from (Supposed) Main "PCOM" Card
E) Closed Picture from (Supposed) Main Chip M58840-610P (Mitsu)
F) At work with a Test movie (Light Off)
G) This part has been removed as suspected to make small line on the film (Machine seems to work properly without this lever, for magnetic sound at least)
H) At this Time I found only MC14584B (small 14 pins) from Motorola , otherwise many Toshiba chips are installed
___________________________________________________________
In summary,after a good servicing for Rollers, Flywheel Ball Bearings (slightly noisy) the machine is smoother, quietter.
A new problem appears with Slide Switch (Left Panel) called PULSE/NORMAL/ESS:
A bad electrical contact make the main motor to stop (SW on NORMAL position).
So , it looks like a non-standard switch, and very difficult to removed without peeling off decal.
KF has no more effect ....
[ October 29, 2016, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 29, 2016, 10:30 AM:
What does KF mean Phil?
I must admit, from memory, the part you are seeking appeared the exact same I remembered from my own ST 1200HD that I once had.
I wasn't for one second going to question Bill's expertise however regarding the Elmos.
It does appear the case though now, certainly perhaps for the early original GS1200 from what Tom has revealed here regarding the part numbers.
Bill may still be right though here Phil with your later GS1200 with the reversed lower loop.
Perhaps this head holder changed on the later models?
I must admit, I don't remember my own head holder appearing as though it had any special plating on the ST1200 HD with mag/opt facilities.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 29, 2016, 10:37 AM:
Andrew, KF is the special spray for contact (solvent + Lubricating)
Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 29, 2016, 11:30 AM:
Phil, I am so happy for you. What a great project. You have been helping me and many others with electrical issues on our projectors. It's now time for you to work on one of your own and what a beauty it is. Congratulations for getting such a top-of-the-line projector and for such a great price. Can't wait to read the progress you make in replacing the parts. Everything sounds very promising for you to get this machine restored.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 29, 2016, 12:23 PM:
Hi Janice,
Thanks for your comments. Even if low cost, it is wasn't the right time for me to buy that, anyway, what's done is done......
Right now the machine can work quietly for essential.
But now, as I have identified particular points to upgrade in medium-terms , the work load is increasing....
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 29, 2016, 12:25 PM:
I can only echo each of Janice's sentiments and as I said previously, I feel this machine couldn't have landed in better hands.
I know you have all the skills and dedication necessary to restore this gem to all of its former glory!
Sorry I'd never come across KF here btw.
I just use Servisol for such applications.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 29, 2016, 12:40 PM:
I have try to call Leon this afternoon (17h30 Paris Time), That rings up to a disk or Fax tone.....
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 31, 2016, 06:33 AM:
Hi Paul,
I try to call LEON again this afternoon (French Hours).
I call Saturday, unfortunately , I got a only disk then a fax tone....
To follow
Posted by Bob Loehr (Member # 3556) on October 31, 2016, 07:26 AM:
Someone paid the amount of 369 Euros just for the 1.0 lens recently:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elmo-Zoom-Lens-1-1-0-12-5-30-mm-2-Jahre-GARANTIE-/201494823984
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 31, 2016, 07:36 AM:
Yes, these are a highly sought after lens in their best form.
Some i've heard are better than others, but when you find a really nice clean original example, I've heard people use expressions like Beautiful Sheen and Glistening Shimmery Picture to describe the resulting projected image.
I have a f1.0, 14-28mm Fujinon PJ Z that similarly just oozes quality.
It weighs around 3 times as much as other quality Super 8mm lenses such as the Schneider Xenovaron ones etc.
Phil really has landed on his feet here with this one!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on November 01, 2016, 01:28 AM:
Yesterday , I spoke at phone with LEON (a long time ago I didn't practice my English language)......So it's like "riding a bicycle", first meters are difficult.
It was very interesting to speak with Leon , who is very patient !!
Anyway , in order to confirm what I understood , I write to him , joining some pictures to the letter
Andrew, is it something usually call "Kiss Landing" ??? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ November 01, 2016, 02:59 AM: Message edited by: Phil Murat ]
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 01, 2016, 04:45 AM:
I haven't heard that expression Phil, but it seems to fit the bill here, yes.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 02, 2016, 11:42 AM:
Hello,
For information,just calling Léon Norris (He is fond of Derann Movies too), he is sending the Head Holder for me .
J had to pay by Post Money Order which involves extra fee from my side.
To Follow
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 04, 2016, 01:49 AM:
A question for Tom,
Hi Tom,
How many Shipping Time did it take to get the parts you order from Leon (USA) ?
NB
I sent you my Email on your Forum Box
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 04, 2016, 03:20 AM:
Once they were posted in the US i think it was about 7/10 days.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 15, 2016, 09:26 AM:
Hi Elmo's Fan,
Just received "Heads Holder" from LEON (USA) and part now installed and adjusted.......
This is Night & Days !!! Easy threading, "Optical" Sound is back, smoother machine, no abnormal rubbing evidences.
I am happy with that.
Once more Thanks to LEON, he is great, highly recommended
Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on December 15, 2016, 09:37 AM:
Thumbs up Phil!
You could start a small business Buying 'cheaper' GS1200's, fixing them up and reselling.
I would be your first buyer:)
I have worked my way up to the ST1200HD from the ST180...and I look forward to more bells and whistles to confused myself more with.
This machine looks great and this thread will come in handy for many others in future with the nice documented pictures and such.
Enjoy!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 15, 2016, 10:02 AM:
Thanks Mathew,
Finding such projector for a bargain price is quite rare.....And As I like it, if I found an other machine , there is a high probability I keep it or..............If I found somebody owning Disney movies for an exchange.......Why not
But mathew, What is "Bells and Whistles" in this concept
Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on December 15, 2016, 10:53 AM:
its an expression that describes something with every known extra available at the time of production. I'm glad you got it fixed Phil, its rare one for sure. Highly desirable Elmo. What Disney movies are you looking for Phil, pm if you want.
Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on December 15, 2016, 11:29 AM:
indeed! Paul's definition is correct!
I know some french and am trying to think of how to say it in french but am unsure
Maybe we make up a new expression in french
" tous les cloches et les sifflets" maybe that sounds too wierd!
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 15, 2016, 11:29 AM:
Hi Paul, Mathew
I understand "approximately", I can say , as I haven't found the equivalent French expression (if it exists) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I don't know if you own an GS1200 too, but one of the reason for me to get it , is to experience a sound transfer from a computer.
A nice member from a French forum (an Electronical Expert) has sent me a schema to built a small device to be incorporated in the computer. The device has been seriously engineered and can be achieved for cheap money : This is a synchro converter, 1000hz to 25hz (size 70mm x100mm) , which allows computer to start projector and lock it at 25Hz. I am impatient to start the project. Normally, if the device is not disturbed by extra frequencies inside computer, the small card is supposed to stay inside. Only one Coax Shielded wire come out from computer.
However that needs a multichannel Sound Cards installed in the computer
To Follow
Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on December 15, 2016, 11:43 AM:
An external sound card will do it Phil, via the usb port on your computer. I have used virtual dj for multiple outputs of turntables, which can play left and right channel for each deck, or separate mono channels of the same. You can create the 25hz square wave in audacity and save as a mp3 file, this can be played through one channel on virtual, leaving you free to use the other channels for sound, via the external sound card. The GS will start and stop with this setup too, one thing to watch is the internal sound card sample rate, this is sometimes not stable, a problem with dmx recently made this a pain to solve, an external dongle sorted this out though.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 15, 2016, 12:07 PM:
Yes Paul, the system is based on equivalent principle you described.
A 1000 Hz sequence (45mn) has been generated with a very precise tool and has to be matched on sound sequences picked up from DVD (using Audacity).
The Synchro stability is perfect for one hour run.
Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on December 16, 2016, 11:03 AM:
Hi Paul
PM sent !
Phil
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