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Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on December 27, 2016, 04:50 PM:

After going through all my titles and making a spread sheet on what I have I now have 71 titles: an am looking for a scored print of Angora Love if anybody has one they want to sell.
With Love and Hisses
Sugar Daddies
The Second Hundred Years
Do Detectives Think?
Leave 'Em Laughing
Flying Elephants
The Finishing Touch
From Soup to Nuts
Your Darn Tootin'
Their Purple Moment
Should Married Men Go Home?
Two Tars
Habeas Corpus
We Faw Down
Liberty
Wrong Again
That's My Wife
Big Business
Unaccustomed as we Are
Double Whoopee
Berth Marks
Men O' War
Perfect Day
They Go Boom
Bacon Grabbers
The Hoose-Gow
The Night Owls
Blotto
Brats
Below Zero
Hog Wild
L & H Murder Case
Another Fine Mess
Be Big
Chickens come Home
Laughing Gravy
The Stoolen Jools
Our Wife
Pardon Us
Come Clean
One Good Turn
On The Loose
Beau Hunks
Helpmates
Any Old Port
The Music Box
The Chimp
County Hospital
Scram
Pack Up Your Troubles
Towed in a Hole
Their First Mistake
Twice Two
Me and My Pal
The Midnight Patrol
Busy Bodies
Wild Poses
Dirty Work
Sons of the Desert
Oliver the Eighth
Going Bye-Bye
Them Thar Hills
Live Ghost
Tit for Tat
The Fixer Uppers
Thicker Than Water
On The Wrong Trek
Our Relations
Way Out West
Blockheads
A Chump at Oxford
Saps at Sea
Tree in a Test Tube

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 27, 2016, 05:19 PM:

Jim

Out of curiosity is Thicker than Water Blackhawk Super 8 or 16mm?

Mike

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on December 27, 2016, 09:10 PM:

These are all super 8

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on December 28, 2016, 10:52 AM:

You qualify to have a "tent" of your own, as a Son of The Desert member - Shorty

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 28, 2016, 11:14 AM:

Thicker than Water is a hard title to obtain. I think I missed it once on a list and it was advertised as Blackhawk.

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on December 28, 2016, 11:57 AM:

A good one from the boys Mike, with his tiny wife "cooking his goose" with a large frying pan. A nice one to have on Blackhawk.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 28, 2016, 12:09 PM:

Thats a good list there Jim, Here is ours so far,

L & H Another fine mess 600ft
L & H A towed in the hole
L & H A Beau Hunks
L & H Below Zero
L & H Blockheads
L & H Busy Bodies
L & H County Hospital Std 8mm
L & H Dirty work
L & H going bye bye
L & H Helpmates
L & H Hogwild
L & H Jailbirds aka Pardon us
L & H Live Ghost
L & H Midnight Patrol 400ft Std 8mm
L & H One good turn
L & H Our Wife
L & H Perfect Day
L & H Scram
L & H Sons of the Desert
L & H The fixer uppers
L & H The music Box 600ft
L & H Their first mistake
L & H Thicker than Water Blackhawk Std 8mm
L & H This is your life
L & H tit for Tat
L & H Twice two
L & H Way out West

You cannot beat a good old L & H or Tom & Jerry [Wink]

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 28, 2016, 01:26 PM:

No Flying Deuces either of you? It does have its moments and is better than watching Tree in a test tube or This is your Life for that matter.

Was it Movieland that brought out The Big Noise full feature. I remember Roger trying to sell it to me.

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on December 28, 2016, 01:39 PM:

I had a niles print years ago of flying dueces but did not care for it so it got sold.

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 28, 2016, 01:53 PM:

Jim

I had a few prints of Flying Deuces before I got a decent one. My print was a Mountain print. I rerecorded the opening credits with a traditional Laurel & Hardy tune as I couldn't stand the original score.

Your list depressed me at first as I thought you had everything lol [Smile]

but you are missing the Lugosi/ Hardy interview reel, The Derann newsreels of 1947 from memory there were five segments and the Romney Dymchurch visit also 1947 available in colour but Derann's print was rather washed out in terms of colour compared to the earlier prints. Also, being a John Wayne fan I had the Fighting Kentuckian feature which whilst only having one half of the team you might just want to pick up the trailer. It has a few great lines from Ollie.

Mike

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 28, 2016, 03:52 PM:

we also has flying deuces but sold it on as i didn't think it was one of best by a long shot, however, we also had the 200ft reel the music men which featured two good parts of the film, this was one short i wish we kept, also recently sold off he Oliver Hardy/Bela Lugusi interview due to the sound being quite poor. [Wink]

Posted by Clinton Hunt (Member # 2072) on December 28, 2016, 04:47 PM:

I have a few more than I thought plus I think I have some on 9.5mm and maybe 16mm :-)

Standard 8mm silent
Laurel and Hardy of detectives think (start missing) 8.5mins 1927
Laurel and Hardy grave heroes plus bill of fare 100ft
Laurel and hardy tit for tat (no start title) 9.5mins 1925
Laurel and Hardy love and hisses 200ft
Laurel and Hardy banished to Bogeyland 200ft
Laurel and Hardy pardon us (start missing) 8.75mins 1931
Laurel and Hardy caught k'napping 9.25mins
Laurel and Hardy big business (no opening title) 300ft
Laurel and Hardy no flies on us 200ft
Laurel and Hardy reluctant legionnaires 50ft
Laurel and Hardy cards? (no opening title) 6mins
Laurel and Hardy (French titles) oeil pour oeil (eye for an eye) 6.75mins
Laurel and Hardy sword play

Standard 8mm sound
Laurel and Hardy hog wild b/w sound 200ft 1930

Super 8mm
Laurel and Hardy let's leave the legion b/w sound 9 mins 1930's
Laurel and Hardy tit for tat b/w silent 9mins 1935
Laurel and Hardy going bye-bye b/w silent 200ft 1934

Posted by Joseph Randall (Member # 4906) on December 28, 2016, 07:03 PM:

No HATS OFF?
[Big Grin]

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on December 29, 2016, 04:09 AM:

HATS OFF ... If you manage to get a print of Hats Off .
[Wink]

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 29, 2016, 04:50 AM:

Hats Off I think they were a couple of copies of it on a recent Christmas sales list that was mentioned. Is it rare?

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on December 29, 2016, 04:56 AM:

I bought both of them Mike but took expert advice from those on the 16mm forum and dumped them in the bin due to possible VS.
Thank goodness they will not be able to affect my other prints now.

Kevin

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 29, 2016, 05:40 AM:

Kevin I am so relieved you have dumped lost copies Laurel And Hardy Hats Off copies best decision you could have made. Let's hope my precise details are picked up on searches for Hats Off by archivists 😈

Anyway knowing you of old I guess you have the other 105 titles on Super 8 plus extras but are too shy to tell us.😮

I noticed when searching for lost Laurel and Hardy films they didn't have a synchronised sound version of We Faw Down until very recently. To think I had a 1 reel version with a piano accompaniment by Mountain. I could have been infamous again 👹👹👹👹

Glad you are feeling better anyway.

Mike

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on December 29, 2016, 06:02 AM:

Cheers Mike, yes feeling much better now, just realised from a couple of messages I've missed some fun on here over the past week or so. Something like The Film Sale Of The Century by the sounds of it.

All part of the service - faded, VS, more than 5% missing etc. in the bin it goes - I'm sure someone else will have Hats Off tucked away somewhere knowing us cloak and dagger film collector types. I recall our favourite film dealer had a 35mm can with 'Off' written on the side the last time I went there, could be 'Hats' who knows?

Just about to throw another few feet of scrap Nitrate stock on the fire must keep warm now winter has arrived.

Kevin

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 29, 2016, 06:53 AM:

That's the spirit the vapours will help clear your sinuses.

You being the font of all knowledge did a 200ft extract from Birth of the Century Laurel & Hardy ever get released on Standard or Super 8. It's the part they already have not some lost deleted portion to all the lurkers watching us.

I seem to remember seeing it somewhere. Could be the thermofilm rotting my brain but you can confirm. Perry's list seem to come to mind but I have lifted a box somewhere with that title as well and then thrown it down "not sound" [Big Grin]

Yes, you missed all the excitement no Tivo rewind for late comers. Apparently there is a hungry tortoise belonging to [Roll Eyes]

Tom on the loose. This could be bigger than The Rose!!!

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on December 29, 2016, 09:23 AM:

Might I add the Manbeck S8 400' of TOUR OF BRITAIN (1932), ROGUE SONG (1930) clip (about 3-minutes), TEST TUBE (1943), of course, and the last footage AT HOME I call it (1956), about 5-minutes - I was fortunate to get the 1947 Newsreel/1950 Shipboard Interview and Dymchurch reel from overseas not long ago - HATS OFF, seriously, there was a rumor about a 9.5 being around, I've been searching and hounding as only I can - Cheers all, Shorty

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on December 29, 2016, 09:49 AM:

Hello Shorty

Yes only joking about Hats Off as it is currently 'lost' but it would be wonderful for it to turn up on any guage.

Mike, as I think Shorty will confirm the ten or so minute segment of Battle was released, I think as about 250ft on a 400ft spool by Blackhawk on Standard / Regular 8mm, and also by them on 16mm.

I have the Blackhawk 16mm scored version, please see below a few frames I scanned today, hopefully the recently found full version will be remastered and released one day.

Kevin

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 29, 2016, 10:29 AM:

Aha I wasn't dreaming about Battle of the Century . I'd forgotten about the 1932 Tour 400ft Shorty. Another purchase I made from Perrys. I think I sold it on to Mark Todd Esq many moons ago.

I still have it on DVD not the same I know but it wasn't that rare in the wider world.

Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on December 29, 2016, 11:15 AM:

I have most of the features and nearly all the sound shorts on 16mm. but one I do have which I have never seen another copy on 16mm is the big noise and its a mint print

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 29, 2016, 11:42 AM:

David

Big Noise was brought out on super 8 full length by Movieland. Print as you say was also great unfortunately the post Roach features Laurel & Hardy made with MGM and Fox weren't great,

Mike

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 29, 2016, 11:45 AM:

Nice screenshots of "Battle" there!

My collection is about the size of Tom's (Sorry Shorty, love the lads but I don't think I get my "tent") [Smile]

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on December 29, 2016, 05:43 PM:

I don't like to boast but,well,with the exception of Pack Up Your Troubles, I do have all their Roach starring shorts and features,plus Flying Deuces, Nothing But Trouble, Atoll K, Pick A Star plus the early appearances Lucky Dog, 45 Minutes from Hollywood, Love 'em and Weep, Call of the Cuckoos ,the cameo On the Wrong Trek and the Americom two reel excerpts from the Dancing Masters The Big Noise plus the shorts Mike and Shorty referred to. Plus Zenobia I admit I didn't know about The Big Noise and The Fighting Kentuckian features or the Rogue Song excerpt available in 8mm.

Posted by Joseph Randall (Member # 4906) on December 29, 2016, 06:52 PM:

Of the post-1940 movies, I only have a one-reel extract from THE DANCING MASTERS called HOUSE GUESTS.

Pre-1940, I'm missing:
LUCKY DOG
45 MINUTES FROM HOLLYWOOD
NOW I'LL TELL ONE
DUCK SOUP
WHY GIRLS LOVE SAILORS
HATS OFF
HOLLYWOOD REVIEW OF 1929
THE ROGUE SONG
ON THE LOOSE
HOLLYWOOD PARTY
BONNIE SCOTLAND (but I do have 3 extracts-- IN A MESS, THE ROOKIES, BANG BANG!)
PICK A STAR (but I do have A DAY AT THE STUDIO)

I also have the color film that shows them together for the last time on film, and a newsreel from one of their 1940's tours.

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 30, 2016, 10:53 AM:

The Boys also feature in Robert Youngson Golden age of Comedy I think there were two versions 4x400 plus 5x400. Print was variable from reel to reel a little soft in places.

Panayotis I take it you have the operetta movies Bohemian Girl , Fra Diavolo and Babes in Toyland. I have seen the first two and they great prints with nice sequences the music elements are just not my taste. Babes in Toyland I believe was abridged and from different sources but not as good as other two in terms of print.

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on December 30, 2016, 11:25 AM:

"Just counted all my Laurel & Hardy's"

Let us never forget..... there is only ONE Laurel & Hardy !!!!

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on December 30, 2016, 11:27 AM:

BATTLE (the quasi-restored version), was released through Blackhawk in 1981 for the whopping price of $41.35 (shippng included) - It runs about 325', much intro, nice score and the long-awaited boxing sequence and subsequent ending - Lou Costello is in the audience as an extra - A 16mm was found earlier this year and is as complete as we're going to get - Let's wait to see if it'll turn up on disc for us - Joe, DUCK SOUP and WHY GIRLS can be had on tape or disc well enough, a print might be hard, though not impossible (16mm of course) - Pan, yes, a 3-minute clip of ROGUE (Though mine is on the dark), having them go into a cave where a bear is - Sorry there is no accompanying soundtrack to it - Just needed it to fill in the gap, so to speak - I can boast a bit myself that I have all the extant Super 8/Std 8 available on The Boys, that is prime and interesting - HATS will most likely be found in a foreign archive, though a chance a truncated print might still show up around here - Cheers all, Shorty

Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on December 30, 2016, 12:30 PM:

No doubt Hats Off will be found for the Blu Ray releases or just after if they want to milk us again.

They are powerful slow in releasing L&H on Blu Ray a few discs here or there but no boxed set. I think I paid close to £100 for 21 DVD set which you now can get for less than £20. I also hope they do the titles chronologically as opposed to by theme.

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