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Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 25, 2017, 07:30 AM:

Another forgotten film find at bottom of a cardboard box.

DERANN FILM ...In original box / Polyester stock.

THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN /600'/ SCOPE / COLOUR/SOUND.

I think i have ever shown this twice since new.

Posted by John Armer (Member # 4655) on May 25, 2017, 07:53 AM:

Is this because it's not a very good cut down David?

Not seen it myself and wondering whether to look out for a copy.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 25, 2017, 07:56 AM:

John it is a very good cutdown indeed and well worth hunting
down.

Its just that I have a bad habit of not watching some of my
films on a regular basis.

I forgot I even had this one. [Wink]

Posted by John Armer (Member # 4655) on May 25, 2017, 08:06 AM:

Thanks David, good to know.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 25, 2017, 11:45 AM:

That's happened more often than not in my collection too, Dave ...

More often it's me looking at something and saying, "Hey, I thought I sold that years ago." [Smile]

Posted by Jason Smith (Member # 5055) on May 25, 2017, 09:42 PM:

I would love to see some screenshots from this film. I`ve watched a few minutes of a friends copy but I was not impressed with this Derann release. Maybe there are better copies out there.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on May 26, 2017, 02:53 AM:

I picked up part 2 of the earlier split 2x400ft release from Derann (on SP0 from Phil on Saturday, out of the £8 each 4 for £25 box. A bit orange but the part after the escape when they are on the run and captured. Not bad for the price.

Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on May 26, 2017, 03:09 AM:

I have this 600 footer and it's quite a nice print, colours great on it, I also have the 2x400 but that's fading now, Mark

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 26, 2017, 03:24 AM:

Jason i would happily post screenshots for this release.
However i cant as i don't know how to do it and my equipment
is still packed away.
[Smile]

Osi... hahahaha ! I can well relate to that.

Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on May 26, 2017, 08:58 AM:

My scope print had a slightly bluish cast. I sold it long ago

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 26, 2017, 09:19 AM:

Many do Joe and not only TMS.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 26, 2017, 12:19 PM:

There was an Italian full feature of this, not scope, flat, but I would have no idea as to whether the color has held up or even the overall quality of the print, (neg source ect.)

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on May 26, 2017, 12:55 PM:

Can somebody confirm,please, if the 600' is a different edit to the 2x 400'?

(I did pass my maths exam and realize that 2x 400 = 800, not 600, but we are all aware of how much film often isn't found on a 400' spool).

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 26, 2017, 01:27 PM:

Melvin as far as i am aware the 600' is the same edit as the
2 x 400' edition.

The 600' is on thinner polyester stock.

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on May 26, 2017, 03:27 PM:

Thanks for that,David. It was worth checking.

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 26, 2017, 04:45 PM:

This was one of the first abridged super releases in the UK that featured mixing of 16mm full coat soundtracks for a super 8 release.

In other words, Derann released, together with a skillful editor, not only a 2 x 400ft version which was nicely edited picture wise, but also featured a cross fading and mixed soundtrack which, especially given the high profile musical score, gave a much smoother result.

Watch it again and listen to the soundtrack, then compare it to the DVD...

Beautiful soundtrack editing job back in the day...

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 27, 2017, 03:34 AM:

Derann also printed 600' Scope editions of THE GREAT ESCAPE and
ITS A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD which were also first released
as 2 x 400' editions.

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on May 27, 2017, 10:14 AM:

David - I assume the same rule applies to these too. Because the 600' is polyester, the edit is the same?

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 27, 2017, 10:45 AM:

The original Derann releases of these 2 x 400ft versions were available in the late 1970's and early 1980's.

Then video killed off super 8.

Of course, Derann persevered successfully with super 8 throughout the 80's and 90's and the 600ft versions were simply the original 2 x 400ft negatives joined together and re-printed (the originals would normally be about 360ft per spool) and, as has been pointed out, with thinner polyester stock, they made a tidy 600ft release.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 29, 2017, 09:54 AM:

There you go Melvin.

Rob has kindly answered your question there.
[Smile]

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