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Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 23, 2018, 10:39 AM:
OK, time for some "Pictorial Reflections" on CineSea again.
The usual applies: I post, someone throws in a quick post, and then I can continue the thread, so everything stays in one "column" so to speak.
Gary Crawford and I drove up together as always, and after our regular lunch at the Maurice River Diner and a few squalls of rain, we got to Wildwood with the sun saying hello. As the title pic indicates, we had gotten a new, if temporary, "Wildwood River" in the midst of the dunes; the turbulent summer weather had done its part to reshape the familiar beach.
It used to be a few of us were 'early birds', but more folks now arrive on Thursday when possible. Things were well underway when Gary and I got there. These two distinguished gents, Mssrs. Cleveland and Boland, were lounging by the garage entrance when we arrived:
Inside, the hanging of black drape got underway. Gary was excited to help, perhaps too much so...
Shorty Caruso pitched in as well:
It is remarkable to stand and look at a movie screen in regular light. It's just a reflective piece of material, there is "nothing" there...yet when the lights are down and the images appear (with sound), the screen vanishes and the viewer is transported away...it's easy to take for granted, but remember the impact of the first public screenings :-)
David Lucidi arrived early, and we owe him a big "Thank You", not only for his usual abundant supply of home-made popcorn...
...but also for the beautifully printed posters he supplied this time. Scanned from 200-ft film box lids and small prints, the posters looked amazing:
That is the limit for the forum this time; I'll have more...
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 23, 2018, 10:51 AM:
Great ! More, please
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on October 23, 2018, 11:03 AM:
Yes, more please. Even though I am so totally DYING to go to one of these things, I LUV seeing the pics!
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 23, 2018, 11:23 AM:
On we go:
The Three Musketeers:
We had to hang David's posters, of course:
Setup got underway. Doug and Evan Samaras rolled in "stuff":
Joe Caruso worked on his 8-mm history table, complete with memorial photos of our old friend John Black:
Gary had his three-machine setup: Elmo 1200, Kodak Pageant and Eumig 810:
Speaking of hanging posters: our banner (We're still missing our Dearly Deflated...the AiryFlex balloon):
More next time...
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 23, 2018, 11:32 AM:
I love your pictures.
Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on October 23, 2018, 11:49 AM:
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on October 23, 2018, 12:47 PM:
Those posters look amazing....
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on October 23, 2018, 01:11 PM:
Yours truly had the thought of hanging reels to weigh the sign down, as it were...now on to the show, courtesy of our brilliant lens-man, Claus - Shorty
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 23, 2018, 10:13 PM:
The Tuckeys arrived! Tammy says "Hi"...
...and daddy Todd (right) hung out with Ed Gower:
Our long-travelling friend Jason came from Japan to be with us again:
Meanwhile, the Franchettis arrived...
...and got their customary tables filled with films:
Joe Caruso's table was now complete. It's always a wonderful mix of literature, the 200-ft. world of 8 MM collecting and of sub-genres such as travelogues and short documentaries:
Newcomer to the event, Brian Stearns, and Shorty hope you'll stay tuned for more...
Coming up (shameless plugs): more coverage, with images from the Friday screening. Plus...35 MM again at CineSea (cue music...)
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on October 23, 2018, 10:34 PM:
Terrific as always!
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 24, 2018, 10:12 AM:
On to some of the gear. Joe Griesbach usually has some fine vintage equipment with him, and this time was no exception. This beautiful 16mm RCA Model 400 machine got a lot of looks:
Joe Vannicola brought his trusty B & H 16mm:
All hail Doug's Elmo 1200 GS Xenon! It is a heck of a beast, a wonderful reminder of just how good Super-8 got towards the end of the "golden period". Here it is set up for CinemaScope:
Gary Sloan had a hellish trip, getting in late with his 16-mm Xenons (and the print of 'Psycho') for the Friday night screening, so he deserved some wine...
...but with a good hustle on everyone's part, the show ran just fine. It was great to see Hitch's classic on a big screen again:
...more to come.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on October 24, 2018, 10:45 AM:
We decided to have an impromptu scope screening of True Lies on Friday afternoon. This was the the first time I used the 1.0 lens on the Xenon (normally it's the 1.1) and that bit of extra light came in handy on a bright afternoon.
As Claus said, Gary did an extraordinary job setting up quickly and starting the Friday night feature. I've seen Psycho many times, but there's always something new to notice....
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 24, 2018, 11:00 AM:
I have pictures from "TL" as well; glad you mentioned the 1.0 lens since that's coming in the next post. For anyone who still wonders if they really "need" Xenon light output levels, all I can say is: YES . There is rarely such a thing as too much light, and especially with the pure white color temperature of Xenon, you get a beautiful reproduction of both color and and B/W images.
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Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 24, 2018, 12:35 PM:
How can it be in a movie about a serial killer the creepiest character is still that traffic cop?
It was a great night: it's not often you get the chance to see such a classic presented as it was meant to be seen.
Posted by Greg May (Member # 6310) on October 24, 2018, 02:20 PM:
There were also a few people, including Jenna who had never seen Psycho before. Seeing it on film was definitely a plus for a first time viewing. Even in my case, having seen it multiple times, film adds a whole new level to it.
Posted by Brian Stearns (Member # 3792) on October 25, 2018, 12:31 AM:
Just getting a picture taken with the great Shorty Caruso is an honor.
Gary Sloan looks sad in the picture He deserved that drink after the tragedy of the broken projector. funny picture by the way with David in background laughing
Last time I had watched Psycho was on Laserdisc never seen it on film. Great experience.
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on October 25, 2018, 04:11 AM:
I was just thinking of an interview in England of a collector who ran an outdoor screening of Psycho. He projected the 16mm film onto a paper screen, and just at the right moment in the film, his daughter ran through the screen from behind it and towards the audience, followed by his son weilding a large knife.
I understand the effect on the audience was really something
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 28, 2018, 11:44 AM:
On Friday, prior to our "Psycho" screening, we had two special set-ups put in place. First, Doug Meltzer had improved on his usual top-end 1200-GS Xenon/Rectimascope wide-screen rig by putting the Elmo 1.0 lens in for even more brightness. The results were wonderful. "True Lies" looked great:
You may recall we had a 3-D 35MM screening at the last CineSea. Well, thanks to our friend Geoffrey, who acquired a superb portable (well, TRANSportable) 35MM machine, we were treated to some spectacular reels of film:
Would John Black ever have imagined seeing one of these in our garage space?
The picture quality spoke for itself, even in less-than-totally dark run conditions. On Saturday night, in total darkness...you'll see
One of the brilliant things about this 35MM PortaCine is the convenient front-of-projector breakout connection to two XLRs for easy, high-quality stereo optical sound from a mixer/speaker setup:
A new friend joined us: Professor Peter Flynn, who teaches film in Boston, came down to meet us and to shoot footage for a documentary on film collecting he is working on:
More in a little while...
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Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 28, 2018, 12:11 PM:
Thanks for those new added pictures !
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 28, 2018, 12:49 PM:
Come Saturday, things were in full swing with the usual mix of soundtracks, voices and laughter (and, if you stepped out the garage door, the ocean and the wind.)
Good sound is crucial. Using an EQ and/or sonic processor to help the tracks out (particularly in 16MM) adds much to the enjoyment, regardless of screen size:
Poster reproductions, anyone?:
Doug had one you don't see every day: this "Little Caesar" print in S-8MM:
Good to see our friend Taras coming by (owner of the historic Sea Theatre down the road). Anyone who was at Dino's 9.5MM screening at that little place some years back won't forget it.
They say (they say....) that our hobby is almost totally male-oriented, and maybe there is something to it. The Klares have been a wonderful exception to that idea. Here's more proof that women do come along voluntarily to CineSea
Gary Sloan brought his lady friend Margot...
...and Greg May brought his fiancee Jenna:
Ladies, if you didn't find us too scary, please join us again next time!
Coming up: the Saturday Night Dinner, and screening pics.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 28, 2018, 01:03 PM:
Great, Claus !
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on October 28, 2018, 03:22 PM:
I know John Black would have been thrilled to see 35 running - I know I was - Claus, excellent work as always, always something new to see - Look forward to more - Danke, Shorty
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 28, 2018, 04:52 PM:
Dinner Time! Our Saturday dinner is the highlight of the several meals we get to share during CineSea. Whereas Friday is "Carry-out and Watch" night, Saturday is a real sit-down affair, the big meal before the Saturday film night.
The Boathouse Restaurant is an old favorite by now, and the food and company was great as always. This post consists of the dinner pics, also showing the special "Psycho Cake" Todd Tuckey had brought as dessert:
Bit more to come...
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 28, 2018, 04:56 PM:
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 28, 2018, 05:37 PM:
Heading back to our "cave", we got set up for a night of film. Who says you can't have dessert 'after dessert'? Home-made cupcakes and other snacks fuelled the fun:
Our screening, per custom, was a mix of everything people felt like bringing. A documentary on 9.5MM equipment reminded one that super-8 felt relatively mainstream by comparison to the esoteric and crazily innovative Pathe format:
A cartoon with great color is always welcome...
...and a travelogue on S-8 about the (then new) Epcot Center showed how prophetic many of the inventions were:
A fine print of "The Big T.N.T. Show" brought back a lot of great names:
We were treated to a mid-show performance by Tammy Tuckey and Shorty, Tammy performing a song from her new album, and Shorty doing a series of impersonations set to music.
Then it was back to film:
Geoffrey's 35MM rig now got to shine:
The show went until about 1:30 AM (I had headed up a little while earlier) and it was a smash, given both the content and and the addition of 35MM as the new "big format" on our block.
One more to go to wrap things up.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 28, 2018, 06:21 PM:
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 30, 2018, 01:21 PM:
Sunday came, and people started packing and leaving. There was the sense of not saying "Good-bye", instead saying: "Until next time". CineSea is like that, an expected return every six months to see each other. It is a good feeling, and a tribute to everyone involved in making it happen, including the wonderful folks at the "Ocean Holiday."
Thank you as always for viewing and reading.
I hope the pics and words help inspire someone to make plans for CineSea Spring 2019, and gave those who can't make it a good idea of the kind of fun we have on the shore of Wildwood.
See you in the Spring.
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on October 30, 2018, 01:49 PM:
Applause-Applause-Applause...Warm and everlasting memories - Claus, I congratulate you again - To the memory of John Black, CINESEA and all our friends, God Bless - Shorty
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 30, 2018, 02:41 PM:
Claus, superb as always! Your Cinesea pictures and essay gives great joy to everyone on the forum, and makes us all feel that we were actually there. Bravo!
Posted by Douglas Warren (Member # 1047) on October 30, 2018, 03:02 PM:
Wow! What a great batch of photos. It looks like everyone had a grand time. Hopefully one day I'll make it out there.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on October 31, 2018, 11:31 AM:
Did someone have a film print of the Anthony Hopkins film "The Edge"? I thought I recognized it being projected. I was just curious as that is one of my favorite survival films of the last two decades.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 31, 2018, 11:44 AM:
If I remember right, that was a 35mm trailer.
While we were watching it we decided to buy the DVD.
(I guess trailers really do work!)
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on October 31, 2018, 12:17 PM:
It was in 35MM and it looked great:
Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on November 01, 2018, 02:49 PM:
Great photos guys! Hopefully I will come up for the next one!
Is there a prize for the most travelled?
Nice to see some 35mm being screened!
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 01, 2018, 03:10 PM:
Yes, Pat, but it's strictly honorary!
You are in the running against Jason Smith flying in from Tohuko, Japan!
I believe you are further east, but then again Jason's in the same Hemisphere.
-a couple of thousand miles south should put you over!
Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on November 01, 2018, 06:45 PM:
Yes im way south of the equator here Steve!
I should bring some railway films to screen, I got some on 35 as well as 16.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 01, 2018, 07:59 PM:
I've heard stories of a 35mm "A Train for Christmas" from Graham!
The Derann Super-8 cut-down was the first train film ever to get on screen in Wildwood.
Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on November 03, 2018, 10:05 AM:
Gee whiz..... I got to get to one of these again. Great photos!
Posted by Ali Hipperson (Member # 5643) on November 05, 2018, 07:05 AM:
Hi Claus. As always great pictures and comments from everyone on here - what a superb job you continue to do in bringing CineSea to those of us who can't actually be there, so far!
As a member on here for the last two years I have followed (from afar) and greatly admired each CineSea since I joined this excellent forum - and I am definitely inspired to make the trip to my first CineSea.
Although due to personal/family circumstances it is unlikely to be in time for the next one, I am very much hoping that I can make it to CineSea - October 2019.
Until such time - thank you for all your efforts again
Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on November 05, 2018, 09:58 AM:
Thank you, Ali; I appreciate the comments. It would be great if you can get here for the Fall 2019 show; you know you'd be welcome. The ultimate "tribute" to our little gathering is that people are willing to travel quite a bit to come join; I hope this works out for you.
Posted by Ali Hipperson (Member # 5643) on November 10, 2018, 02:36 PM:
Hi Claus and you're more than welcome.
I hope everything works out for me too and that I will be able to visit you all next October - fingers-crossed!
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on November 12, 2018, 11:11 AM:
Claus, my compliments always for top-work - It is always a tribute to our efforts - Yes, everyone stay well and make our next in April - Cheers and Blessings to all, Shorty
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on November 23, 2018, 09:58 PM:
Here is something from CineSea
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on November 23, 2018, 10:42 PM:
Graham, thanks for the link. There I am in the thumbnail image!
Boston based filmmaker Peter Flynn recorded the goings on at CineSea for his upcoming documentary about film collecting, VIVA FILM!. In addition to Stu, Peter interviewed a number of collectors, including Geoff Curtis and Gary Sloan. The footage looks great.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 24, 2018, 08:30 AM:
Geoff's interview is also there and really good:
The rest of the shorts are interesting too:
Peter Flynn on Vimeo
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Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on November 24, 2018, 01:12 PM:
It really looks good Doug, was he using 4K video?
Its great to see footage of those events.
Steve... Thanks for that link, I have just been watching his other Vimeo videos as well, they all very interesting.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on November 25, 2018, 12:11 PM:
I'm not sure.....Peter was working with either a Canon EOS C300 or C100. The 300 does have 4K capability while the 100 doesn't.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on November 25, 2018, 12:48 PM:
Great thread.Thanks for putting all the images up.
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