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Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on May 07, 2008, 12:39 PM:
I've just found out that the new movie Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull runs for 122 minutes and 20 seconds, which is about the same time as the last movie. I had heard of an early cut that ran for about another 18 minutes, so we'll have to wait for the DVD and see what scenes were cut (if they show them all, that is!). Still whatever the running time, I'm looking forward to this film, as I saw a new trailer the other night, and it looks brilliant.
Posted by Andrew Wilson (Member # 538) on May 07, 2008, 02:23 PM:
Barry,It's Lucas and Speilberg.We the public,know what's coming.Andy.
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 07, 2008, 04:00 PM:
If the trailer is anything to go by it looks like its made for the fans, full of action and humour "great stuff" however I cant believe its almost 20 years ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
since I watched "The Last Crusade" at the cinema.
Graham. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Trevor Adams (Member # 42) on May 07, 2008, 05:44 PM:
Was that Harrison Ford on a Zimmer frame? Trev
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 07, 2008, 06:09 PM:
We've been waiting for this one!
They wisely put the film about 10 to 15 years after "Last Crusade", allowing for Indy to show a little age.
... but a sixty year old Indy is better than twenty Wesley Snipes, Jean Claude Van Dames, ect!
... except for Clint Eastwood. He'd be tough at one hundred years old, in a wheel chair, with a loaded 45!
" I need someone to change my diaper, and none of that
"huggies" crap!! Rrrrrr! "
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on May 08, 2008, 10:50 AM:
The film being released in theaters is 2 hours 20 minutes.
Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on May 08, 2008, 12:29 PM:
Brad,
I got my timings of the British Film Classification website, and the film being released in the U.K. is 122 minutes and 20 seconds, I heard like you that it was going to be 2 hours and 20 minutes, so I'm a bit confused now, as the BBFC is always accurate with its timings as they also list the length of the films submitted. Go to the site on this link http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/index.php?media=film and look for yourself.
Posted by Andrew Wilson (Member # 538) on May 08, 2008, 05:24 PM:
Unless the bbfc have made cuts to it?.Cant see that though.Andy.
Posted by Robert Wales (Member # 502) on May 08, 2008, 06:17 PM:
I believe this rumour about a 2 hr 20 min cut came from a quote from John Williams who was quoted as saying he was composing a score for a 7 reel film. Much conjecture went around the net on movie websites & blogs that this was the longest of all the series without any real confirmation of the running time. But Barry' information is correct ; the film is just a little over two hours.
The film has also been classified here in the province of Ontario at the same running time and is also listed in the program schedule for this year's Cannes Film Festival on their website.
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on May 08, 2008, 06:43 PM:
Speaking on Eastwood, I've mentioned to someone who sort of knows him that he must create one more "man with no name" film. In keeping with the latest revivals, another such western or Dirty Harry would be a treat
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 08, 2008, 07:41 PM:
I would really LOVE to see the Eastwood in one more Western!
That's the cool thing about westerns, you can be an older star and still make a hellova great film of it!
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 09, 2008, 03:08 AM:
Yeah... and it'll be titled Shootout at the 'OK Corral' Nursing Home ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 09, 2008, 09:23 AM:
SMILE when you say them thar words, pardner!
(click)
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 09, 2008, 10:35 AM:
Was that a gun clicking or did you just snap your third teeth into place?
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on May 09, 2008, 12:27 PM:
No, I'm serious. He did well with pale Rider and The Unforgiven as he got older. I think if he reunites himself with both Eli Wallach, from the leone days and Bruce Dern, the saddle pal from Rawhide, the nostalgia alone would do it also the fact that these guys still have the strength to carry one more off - Hell, I'm a union actor and would be in it for nothing
Posted by Tony Stucchio (Member # 519) on May 09, 2008, 05:41 PM:
You're a union man?
So am I, and I work 16 hours a day.
(Over to you for the next line, Shorty.)
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 09, 2008, 06:05 PM:
Hey you guys, I just lucked into a 4 foot by 6 foot babber of "Indiana Jonbes and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull".
It's a plastic banner that was put out in full color by Kelloggs foods, (the only mention of Kelloggs is just thier logo), and I got two of them in the bargain.
Drool people!!
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 09, 2008, 07:25 PM:
Tony,
But a union man only works eight hours a day......
Shorty, the punch line is all yours!
Doug
Posted by Jose Artiles (Member # 471) on May 09, 2008, 08:04 PM:
we got our print in the film library ready for the opening may 22 and the running time is 122 minutes.
Posted by Tony Stucchio (Member # 519) on May 10, 2008, 10:28 AM:
quote:
But a union man only works eight hours a day......
I work for 2 unions!
Posted by Lance Alspaugh (Member # 27) on May 12, 2008, 03:27 AM:
Gentlemen, Chaps, (any ladies)- As we own and operate theaters out here in Los Angeles, I can tell you witout question the movie runs 122 minutes and is a fairly good entertaining movie at that. Especially if you compare it to some of the garbage we have all had to sit through of late. Won't spoil anything here, some of it you may know already. But its not like any of the 3 films before it and Harrison Ford (hes 66 this July) is to be commended for this effort. Enjoy it please!
LA
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on May 20, 2008, 02:04 PM:
I "helped" a theater owner this afternoon to check his print. Ah, the fresh smell of polyester when you rip the sealed bag...
The movie's fun, there are some really cool ideas and it's quite entertaining (which isn't too bad), but there's a lack of pacing and some sluggish scenes which make you go, "yeah, that was ok" instead of going "Wow! That was Great!" Good thing they cut these 18 minutes out.
But the jungle car chase is pure Spielberg.
Now I can crawl back into my hole and wait for the release of Wall-E.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on May 20, 2008, 02:11 PM:
Yessir!!
WALL-E!!!
WALL-E!!!
WALL-E!!!
Posted by Larry Arpin (Member # 744) on May 24, 2008, 09:41 PM:
I just came from INDIANA JONES and I loved it. Maybe it's because I'm a simple person and wonder why anyone would complain about it. I was really looking forward to this one more than anything else and it wasn't a disappointment at all. I've seen all the others at the theater and it was a pleasure to finally see a new INDY film.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 25, 2008, 10:14 AM:
I saw the film yesterday at the Ziegfeld, what I consider to be the finest movie theater in New York City. It was a great experience, but the sluggishness that Jean-Marc refers to definitely weighs the film down. Another ten or so minutes of cuts would've worked nicely.
There are some very clever references to the earlier Indy films, and a major plot point that's very similar to "Quatermass and the Pit".
Doug
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 27, 2008, 12:35 AM:
I just saw the film tonight and I have to say I REALLY liked it. Yes it could have moved a little more briskly but I just think the character of Indy is such a great one. I think it is his defining role. My favorite line is where Shia watches Indy kick some serious butt and he looks at him and says, "Your a teacher?". Indy smirks and says, "Part time".
There is something very comfortable about Spielberg and Indy together again. I for one and glad that this film came out. Now if we could only clone Harrison Ford...than the series could go on indefinitely....Great stuff..!
Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on May 27, 2008, 05:56 AM:
Hi,
I saw the film on Sunday. IMHO it's a good, entertaining movie compared to other contemporary movies. But IMHO it's only mediocre compared to the last crusade. I guess that the film would have worked better if they didn't tried to add actors from the past films at all costs.
What I didn't like was the optical quality - especially the scenes in Nevada looked more like a bad video-projection. The remaining film was "okay", but far from the 70mm-print of the last crusade I was seeing in the Royal Palast (RIP) back in 1989. In fact Derann's Super8-print of the last crusade might look better. (No, I was seeing a 35mm-print - there was film running through the projector while I left during the credits!)
Even though I might sound a little bit disappointed, I recommend this film to all fans of Indiana Jones. And it's definitely worth been seen on the big screen.
Jörg
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 27, 2008, 06:42 AM:
Have to agree about the print quality.
Dull, grainy and with loads of fluctuations in density and colour throughout - the copy I saw really was suprisingly poor.
Shame really in this day and age when the more enlightened amongst us are still trying to argue with our mates that film remains superior to digital projection; then you get a duffer print like that on such a big title.
Where's me super 8 projector and me copy of "Raiders"...at least I can make sure it is in focus unlike the copy of "Crystal Skull" I saw...
Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on May 27, 2008, 10:55 AM:
Would the print quality have anything to do with the massive amount of release prints needed all at the same time? Over 4,000 here in the US alone. That's not unheard of, but is more than most releases.
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on May 27, 2008, 05:02 PM:
Have just returned from seeing the movie and have to agree with most of my esteemed forum colleagues, with their comments. It was a lot better than I expected, a little slow in parts, with plots taken from Quatermass and the ending very much like Mummy 2. What I was really disappointed with, was the presentation. The film was in and out of focus, especially on the titles. I felt like going to the booth and adjusting it. All in all, a good evenings entertainment and a recommended viewing.
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 27, 2008, 05:35 PM:
Keith, I see you're from Manchester...may I ask at which cinema you saw the (out-of-focus) movie? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on May 27, 2008, 05:56 PM:
Hi Rob. We saw it at the Cineworld Multiplex, Ashton Moss, Ashton-Under-Lyne. Must also say that the cimema left a lot to be desired, considering it's a fairly new complex. The auditorium hadn't been cleaned for sometime. That also applied to the toilets.
Makes having a home cinema that much better!
Posted by Michael Scalise (Member # 278) on May 27, 2008, 08:51 PM:
I too saw the film and was a fun time...Without giving spoilers for those that have not seen it I did make some interesting observations of references to other Speilberg/Lucas films...and another sci-fi great...
1. The kids drag racing scene and the 50's diner atmosphere brought to mind American Graffiti
2. The old bearded man in the film...John Hurt...was in the original Alien...and the crystal skull he carried throughout the new Indy film is similar to the shape of Alien's head.
3. The final scene was similar to the departure scene in Close Encounters. Even the framing had Harrison in the foreground looking on as the action unfolded. Similar to the characters in Close Encounters.
4. The church scene reminded me of the throne room scene in Star Wars...especially when Harrison turns around and the people clap and cheer...just as they did for our heroes after blowing up the Death Star.
No one has mentioned this in anything I have read...and I got to thinking after seeing the film...I mean it came from the minds of Spielberg and Lucas...and I guess they can give a nod to their own previous films if they want...plus it makes a neat inside reference for their fans to catch.
Any thoughts????? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on May 28, 2008, 01:52 AM:
Your absolutely right Michael. Now that you mention it, those could be taken as "reference or homage" scenes (Although Alien is not a Lucas/Spielberg film). If Spielberg and Lucas wish to "blow there own trumpet" about their work, then why not?
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 28, 2008, 03:33 AM:
Lance
Thanks for your running time I used it to estimate the screening times at the cinema they were spot on I have not had the chance to watch the movie full length so far have been to busy, however when checking the focus from time to time the print that we are running looks really good no problems at all nice and sharp, have programmed the movie to run in another screen next week for one day to try out the DTS and compare the sound with the usual Dolby Digital, look forward to watching it soon.
Graham.
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 28, 2008, 09:22 AM:
It must have been an different out-of-focus print I saw then, Keith We went to what is now the Odeon at the Printworks in the centre of Manchester.
Great cinema if you buy the pricey seats...big comfy leather chairs with all the natchos and popcorn you can eat. Plus you sit in a balcony above the riff-raff in the stalls
Only down side is the £15 per ticket!
Graham, nice to know there are at least some decent prints out there. I would love to see this in DTS as no one local to me seems to have it ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 28, 2008, 09:40 AM:
Regarding references, did anyone catch the one where the Russian lady puts the crystal skull on the headless alien skeleton and a few moments later, Indy remarks "I have a bad feeling about this?"
Same thing Han Solo would say repeatedly throughout the original 3 Star Wars movies
Posted by Michael Scalise (Member # 278) on May 28, 2008, 05:16 PM:
Yeah...you are correct.."I have a bad feeling about this" was a definite Star Wars reference....they really did have fun with this one....woo hoo!!
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 29, 2008, 01:16 AM:
Hi Rob
I tend to be a bit one eyed towards DTS its got the edge over Dolby Digital, when we installed DTS it was about the time Master Commander came out, the sound system was so responsive towards the DTS the sound quality was impressive, very few screens have it out here which is a pity, funny thing a couple of years ago a new multi-plex opened near here and one night we went to it to watch a movie at this new cinema, the manager at that time offered me a look around projection box tour etc well after the movie they asked me what I thought I told them their sound system was just ho-hum nothing great middle of the road stuff, followed by many other faults that the cinema had, they also had the bad habit of cranking the sound level up just to impress people so they thought, my thinking was the opposite. I told them I like quality sound not quantity, well I did hear that my name was "mud" around there for a while, well one day both the head projectionist and manager turned up at our humble cinema and spent the day with me and we got on really well. I showed them what a well tuned sound system with more powerfull amps and speakers can achieve without the need to blow people away or for them to leave the cinema with there ears ringing, whats even more amazing after this meeting they still offered me free movie passes, its a pity that many multi-plexes might only have one projectionist on and things like focus etc are not kept an eye on, so if a film is out of focus they dont do anything about it till someone complains and by that time they have some disapointed people on there hands, well that my theory for what its worth.
Graham.
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 29, 2008, 07:12 AM:
One of the reasons I liked it so much was for the reasons pointed above! There was so much that was so familiar....the scene at the end WAS like the coronation at the end of Star Wars. And I loved all the "little' bits thrown in. When they were escaping the warehouse and just before they got out they hit one of the crates open and you could just see the side of ...was that the Golden Ark from the first film? Did anyone else catch it? When I saw this film it reminded me of countless Saturday afternoons waiting for the new Lucas/Spielberg film. Everything about the way these 2 make films is on a grand scale. The way Spielberg moves the camera is so unique and stylistic.
And of course the score by John Williams.....and the print I saw was super sharp. And I think the sound was Kodak Prestripe!
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 30, 2008, 12:47 AM:
Hi all,
I have asked this in other post bot no answer received probably since this post is more attractive.
My question is, did you see that the final print has greenish tone? I saw it here, and I wonder if this is only at Indonesia's prints or also happen in your theatre.
The greenish look especially during the daylight scenes.
cheers,
Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on May 30, 2008, 03:54 AM:
quote:
My question is, did you see that the final print has greenish tone?
The Nevada-scenes have been terrible (visible pixels, persons having the typical "tv signal isn't clear"-shadow, colours looked strange incl. being greenish or reddish, ...). The remaining film was okay. In other words: At least the German print I was seeing wasn't completely greenish. So it sounds like this could be a problem with "your" single print. Maybe you should check by visiting another cinema?
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