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Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 09, 2014, 01:20 PM:
I have been in Israel now for almost one week and could only access to my e-mail box today ! Hotmail detected that I was not in Europe (isn't that the purpose of Internet : you can connect from everywhere ?) and asked for an identification. This special page cannot be accessed from my mobile phone (with a free Wi Fi connection). So I paid to use a regular computer but the page appeared in Hebrew ! Wouldn't it be more logical to display this page in the e-mail box owner's page, especially if you suspect a piracy attempt ? Someone transleted (I am happy I was not in a village in China !) but Hotmail asked for a code sent on my telephone. Of course, I don't use my Belgian chip abroad when I am on holiday, so I hadn't it with me and had to pay for a second connection to be able to use my e-mail box (what if I hadn't brought my Belgian telephone chip at all ?). And I cannot completely use Hotmail : I can read the messages but not answer !
Posted by Clay Smith (Member # 4122) on July 09, 2014, 01:39 PM:
Be safe Dominique. Difficult time there right now.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 09, 2014, 01:44 PM:
Sadly, yes, Clay. I heard two roquets alerts, one yesterday and one this morning. The second one was followed by an explosion sound. The trouble is that I have my flight back on 29th August...
Posted by Clay Smith (Member # 4122) on July 09, 2014, 03:50 PM:
wow, okay Dominique. Keep us posted when you can.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 10, 2014, 12:25 PM:
Yes, most certainly, be very careful there. That whole region is a "powder-keg", ready to go off at any moment.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 10, 2014, 03:55 PM:
Thanks for your reassuring words, Ossi. :-)
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 10, 2014, 03:58 PM:
Stay safe Dominique, lets get you back home in one piece! [Wink]
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 10, 2014, 04:22 PM:
At least, I learned something : in case of a rocket attack, the safest place to go is in the stairs (I guess except if they are in wood). I remember that someone told me that in case of earthaque you should climb the stairs instead of going down as one would do to escape the building. It seems that two Japaneses were saved doing that in Istanbul a few years ago while other people died.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 11, 2014, 12:08 PM:
Weren't we always told that the safest place to be in a house was under a doorpost? I never quite understood that, but there must be some rhyme or reason to it.
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 11, 2014, 05:04 PM:
Watch one of the old nuclear videos. Remember its a four minute warning. Paint your house white then hide under the table!
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 12, 2014, 12:38 AM:
Osi, I never heard about the doorpost thing. David, I guess in case of nuclear attack there is nothing to do.
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on July 12, 2014, 01:47 AM:
Here is some good advise.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 12, 2014, 12:02 PM:
"Duck n Cover ... Duck N Cover"!
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 13, 2014, 10:22 PM:
I left Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, yesterday and...cannot access to my Hotmail again ! Grrrr. I wonder if the people who take safety measures like this travel sometimes and know what the real live is...
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 14, 2014, 11:23 AM:
Dominique ...

Having posted here and kept up with this, I have also been watching the developments over there on the various news sources.

Please be VERY careful, my friend. This area may well be headed into an all out war. Don't be caught in the middle of it.

Please be safe!


Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 14, 2014, 02:38 PM:
Thank you, Osi. The trouble is (except if you are a millionaire) that you have to buy your flight tickets several months before traveling and a situation can dramatically change during this time. I will stay here until the 29 th August (I am teacher, so it is Summer holiday now for me) except if it becomes too dangerous to stay.
Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on July 26, 2014, 08:48 AM:
Hi Dominique, Hope you are still O.K. I hear that today there is a temporary truce for 24hrs. Maybe it will be extended and some permanent agreement can be reached. I also understand that many airlines have cancelled flights to Tel Aviv. Please take great care and keep us "posted" if you can. "When will they ever learn"?!!! Best wishes Ken Finch.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 26, 2014, 09:47 AM:
Hello Ken. Thanks for your concern. So far, I am ok. At the moment, I am in Tel Aviv. Yesterday, there has been an alert but today it seems that the pause is repected. As I don't do things on the half way, my flight (on the 29 th August) is with Ukraine Airlaines. So even when I will be in the plane, I will have to hope that it is not shoot by mistake in the Ukrainian sky.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 26, 2014, 12:07 PM:
Thanks for the update, Dominique! Stay safe, we need all the teachers we can get! You hold the future in your hands!

I didn't know that you had to get your tickets so ahead if time!
Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on July 27, 2014, 02:33 AM:
I am very concerned, too. BBe very caeful!!!
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 27, 2014, 03:19 AM:
Thanks, all ! Osi, we need someone like you as a minister of Education :-) In Europe, the main rulr is that it is cheaper if you buy your transportation tickets several months in advance, especially for the school holidays.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 28, 2014, 11:51 AM:
Teachers are the backbone of any society. The level that a society can reached is in large part, due to the level of education that can be achieved, and that starts at the earliest of age, with someone in an adult position, encouraging young people to develop that brain pan and in doing so, becoming a productive and happy member of society.

I still remember every good teacher from my past that encouraged me, so I have a very fond spot for teachers in general.

Stay safe! [Smile]
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on July 28, 2014, 08:27 PM:
Sorry, I don't have any soft spot for teachers [Roll Eyes] ...I am sure things have improved a lot since I went to school in Scotland during the 1950-60s when Corporal punishment and the use was of the Tawse.... "The Belt" was the norm. I remember just one occasion, getting half a dozen good hits with this belt for running in the corridor during the lunch break. Some teachers could really swing it. and on contact was bloody sore.

I used to give them the hand that I did not write with, as your hand would swell up and I can still remember sitting on the swollen hand and writing with the other. As soon as I turned 15yrs I left school with no regrets....learned nothing.

Glad that school corporal punishment like that has now been banned.
from the net..this photo is how it was done...with the girls they would have a book placed over there wrist but still remember some girls in tears getting this treatment in front of the class.

For the boys....well "no book" just get out to the front of the class and take it. The number of times you got hit with the strap was dependent on the mood of the teacher at the time.
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on July 29, 2014, 03:50 AM:
Graham, Your not the only one to hate school. At mine one was a real bully, he once hit me behind the head along with another lad. I'll swear that caused me problems in later life.

Take care Dominique
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 29, 2014, 10:09 AM:
Sorry to hear these bad school time memories. Nowadays, in some schools, the teacher should be protected from violent students. Things change...
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 29, 2014, 12:11 PM:
Boy, your not kidding Dominique!

When I was in school, if you got in trouble, you went to the Principals office and even up to junior high, the principal would tell you to grab your knees and he'd whack your hiney with a paddle! (no foolin!)

These days, when you have a "disruptive" child, no one is allowed to even touch the child (I watched this one day when my boy was in pre-speech therapy), they just surround the child, not letting him walk away and just do that until the parents come to pick up their child. They can't even touch the obnoxious kid! Only try to "reason" with the kid.

I watched this go on for minutes, thinking, "boy, that kid really needs a good paddling!".

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