8mm Forum: Pathe KOK 28mm

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Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on April 20, 2017, 03:19 PM:

Just wanted to share and hear your comments. I got this from the BFI, Hertfordshire a few years ago and although not cheap it is better than anything else I have seen advertised, especially as I includes a 28mm Charlie Chaplin film.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332189476233?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

Posted by Clinton Hunt (Member # 2072) on April 20, 2017, 05:57 PM:

WOW I would love to own one of these,such a rare film gauge!

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on April 21, 2017, 09:13 AM:

Clinton
Yes it's a real historic machine. They were designed to be independent of any power supply because in those days electricity was not supplied to households or even public halls or buildings. To overcome that problem the projector incorporated a dynamo which operated as you cranked the handle to run the film. At the correct cranking speed the dynamo produces approx 6 volts to supply the lamp - ingenious! Pathe Freres were fantastic innovators of cine equipment and film of that time and this is wonderful example of their work.

[ April 21, 2017, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: Terry Sills ]

Posted by Chris Bird (Member # 3839) on April 22, 2017, 06:02 AM:

Absolutely magnificent machine Terry. I have a similar one, but the case is more faded and battered, and the lamp house missing, so I'm very envious! Must be the pride of your collection.

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on April 23, 2017, 04:19 PM:

Yes Chris I do Love this projector. I have not seen better, but I would consider a deal with your Butcher 35. Let me know what you think!

Posted by Chris Bird (Member # 3839) on April 25, 2017, 04:09 PM:

That's so tempting, but I have to keep hold of that Butchers, though will certainly let you know if I ever change my mind. However I did used to have another, minus metal cover and lamp house, but otherwise in nice condition, which I sold to a friend. If you might want one, I can give him a call and see if he'd consider parting with it.

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on April 26, 2017, 01:16 AM:

Chris
Can you send me a photo of your Butchers? I would like an idea of the missing parts.

Posted by Chris Bird (Member # 3839) on April 26, 2017, 01:44 AM:

Hi Terry, here's mine. His is pretty much identical as I recall but lacks the tiny lamp house. It's similar to one from a KOK or a Pathe Baby, and I assume some previous owner removed it to fit a much larger one off a slide projector. (Both of ours have the handles, not shown.)

Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 1183) on April 26, 2017, 06:58 PM:

This is a picture of my Pathé KOK 28mm projector. This one was manufactured for the USA market. The threading diagram was moved to under the take-up reel, and a switch was added (at the factory) to allow the projector's dynamo to either power the bulb, or turn it into a motor that plugged into 110 volt 60 cycle to allow the projector to run off of wall current. Not pictured, but I have the original cloth wrapped power cord that would run between the wall outlet and the 2 prongs that are pictured to the rear of the switch.

28mm film has 3 sprocket holes/frame on one side, and 1 sprocket hole/frame on the other, so it could not be threaded flipped around.

I also own a German Ernemann 35mm silent projector that is almost an exact knockoff of the Pathé KOK, except that it is 35mm instead of 28mm.

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on April 28, 2017, 02:05 AM:

Thanks for the picture Chris. I remember seeing one at the Clevedon museum where one of the helpful staff demonstrated it working. Lovely little 35mm machine.

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