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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 09, 2017, 12:25 PM:
 
What is this fellow selling?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Will-be-added-soon-3-FEATURE-Super-8-Color-SOUND-/282466586483?hash=item41c4520f73:g:5skAAOSw-K9ZD8bt

I mean, his auctions are usually specific and very good, but I'm baffled by these. It's not the only one that he has with this kind of "gimmick"?

If "moon-seller" is a member here, could you please explain, (I ask politely). [Smile]
 
Posted by Tom Spielman (Member # 5352) on May 09, 2017, 01:24 PM:
 
It's obvious. He's selling a movie called: "(Will be Added Soon 3)", - the prequel to "(Will be Added Soon 4)" [Wink]

Yeah, I'm not sure what is going on there. Did they have a title and description before and then realized they had already sold it? Maybe now they're trying to find a movie to sell in its place?
 
Posted by Roger Shunk (Member # 2836) on May 09, 2017, 01:44 PM:
 
I'm thinking it's "Sound of Music"
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 09, 2017, 02:08 PM:
 
Wow, that's amazing Roger!
How on earth have you concluded that?
 
Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on May 09, 2017, 02:19 PM:
 
I'm with you Roger on the title, Mark
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 09, 2017, 02:25 PM:
 
How do you all know though Mark?

Is it just a case of advertising whatever becomes topical perhaps?
 
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on May 09, 2017, 02:36 PM:
 
Andrew, the ad says : Director : Robert Wise and Leading role : Julie Andrews, Christopher Plummer, so there is a good chance it is Sound Of Music although it also says : Genre : Horror [Smile]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 09, 2017, 02:45 PM:
 
Ah..thank you Dom, no spiritual stuff involved then ha ha.
Sorry Dominique I only glanced at the front page of the ad with the link here.

It's funny though, how many times you see a film surface on e bay once it's been highlighted here.
So I will put a shout out once again for Robocop in the hope one will miraculously appear on e bay tomorrow morning in tip top shape. [Smile]

I won't hold my breath! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

[ May 09, 2017, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
 
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on May 09, 2017, 04:43 PM:
 
The trouble is he has 3 "will be added soon" (3,4 & 5) with that information. However he does also have The Sound of Music for sale as well (as drama) http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOUND -OF-MUSIC-1965-DERRAN-FEATURE-600-X-6-Super-8-Color-SOUND-Scope-/382055911194?hash=item58f44e8f1a:g:Vl4AAOSw5UZY~dTK and another feature as horror. Or as Ailce might say "Curiouser and curiouser"

I suspect he has cut and pasted descriptions badly from The Sound of Music for the first mentioned three. After all would ha have 4 copies to sell?????
 
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 09, 2017, 05:08 PM:
 
He is listing them so that they end on the date he wants them to end but he didn't finish the listing yet.When he gets the time he will add the description and modify the auction. Ebay may have done a free listing or discounted final fee promotion that would need to have started by the day he did his. I've done this once or twice in the past.
Is this seller a member here? He may have seen the escalating prices of Super 8 Derann features and decided NOW is the time to sell. Seems that way. He has a lot of nice ones.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 09, 2017, 05:11 PM:
 
Well the bids are certainly coming in already and decent bids at that! [Wink]

Good luck to the seller and eventual buyer. [Smile]
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on May 09, 2017, 05:15 PM:
 
Well he is obviously originally from the Moon by his seller name that explains the lack of oxygen in his brain or Brian as he would spell it . He now lives in Kansas with Dorothy and Toto and as well as selling the world renowned Will be added soon worldwide classic blockbuster horror science fiction drama war cult Musical comedy features. Well number 3 and 5 at least personally I always like the original. Plus he has the alternative cut James Cameron Alians you don't see to many of those.

Prices are all over the place but he does have Bogart 2x600 at a reasonable price. Considering he can't be arsed spelling or telling the world what he is selling most if not all will go through with no sales. See it was worth while caning you in primary school for getting your spellings wrong👯👯👯
 
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 09, 2017, 05:15 PM:
 
The bids are not that impressive yet. He started the Sound of Music at $495 and its only one bid that was rebid with a higher amount. Notice I said "yet"! [Smile]
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 09, 2017, 05:24 PM:
 
[Big Grin] [Wink]

Not bad though to have bids already at that relatively high starting price, Alan.
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on May 09, 2017, 05:39 PM:
 
Busy little Moonie must have sold every Laurel and Hardy at least twice plus multiple copies of others. His first sale was Disco Beaver says it all
 
Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on May 10, 2017, 02:32 AM:
 
you're all confused ...........i'm not 😄 !!!
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 10, 2017, 11:39 AM:
 
Hey! He got all of them up now.

I'm curious about the "Aliens". he states that he is going to get screenshots of it up. I'd like to see those screenshots first before I get "more curious", it is one of the horrible "bluish" prints, or is it a very nice agfa or good LPP print? That makes all the difference to me.
 
Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on May 10, 2017, 02:01 PM:
 
I see that "moon-seller" has quite a few films as a Buy It Now. Has any member bought from him/her?
 
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on May 11, 2017, 10:48 AM:
 
I have bought some 200' digests and cartoons from him. I have had good transactions and the prices were reasonable. This was a couple years ago and I don't remember exactly what I bought.
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 11, 2017, 11:06 AM:
 
WOW! That's a good copy of "Alians" (haha), but it's WAAAY beyond what I can afford now! Wouldn't be surprised if it easily tops a thousand.
 
Posted by Mike Blasko (Member # 5867) on May 11, 2017, 02:02 PM:
 
Is Aliens that rare? I agree the color is very good, but $1,000 seems steep unless this one is very rare.
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 11, 2017, 11:59 PM:
 
Mike, all of the later top 100 Derann feature films are becoming scarce now and this one certainly makes it up on that list!

In almost any condition, people will want these films.
Complete, even more so.
Very few now will ever look entirely like new. When they do, even titles that notoriously sold for far less, now appear to be raising these type of prices and beyond.
This has been experienced on several occasions only recently.
 
Posted by Evan Samaras (Member # 5070) on May 12, 2017, 12:15 AM:
 
I've bought from him before. His communication was straight forward. My amazement is mostly at the odd reel of The Fog for over $200!
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 12, 2017, 05:39 AM:
 
If you are a reel fan of Aliens then the Directors Cut that James Cameron has added on the blu-ray is a must. I have watched both the original on film when it came out, but at the time James Cameron was asked to cut back the running time and as such both the film and no doubt the Super8 print from it had lost almost 20 minutes of good footage.

Watching the blu-ray with the 18-20 minutes of original footage put back in, does make quite a difference to the story of Aliens itself and fills in the gaps of what happened on that planet before the rescue mission came about. [Wink]
 
Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on May 12, 2017, 09:51 AM:
 
Graham, I have to disagree with you. After seeing both versions I can see why that footage was left out of the theatrical release. It slows the pacing of the film down too much. I prefer the original film [Smile]
 
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 12, 2017, 10:17 AM:
 
If you are a reel fan of something- regardless of the pacing- you will enjoy ANY new information/footage of the film that you love. I get it. I really love Cinema Paradiso and the theatrical cut is the best one but I saw the special edition which added another 20 minutes or so a few years ago when it was released In the theatres for a limited run. Glad I saw it but the pacing was uneven. It was obviously released for the fans of that film. Same with Dances with Wolves uncut version.
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 12, 2017, 11:37 AM:
 
I agree, unless the footage cut out was cut out for a very good reason.

One film that was helped immeasurably with the "directors cut' was "Highlander 2". The first 90 minute cut wasn't horrible, but the almost two hour directors cut, with fixed up special effects and such, was much better. it wasn't a perfect film to begin with, and isn't perfect now, but the directors cut was a big step up.
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 12, 2017, 03:08 PM:
 
Is the Sentry guns this in the Super8 print? as I cant remember seeing it on its film release to the cinema back in the 80s. Its certainly in the directors cut... [Cool]

https://youtu.be/elJ3t6AOPJc
 
Posted by Mike Newell (Member # 23) on May 12, 2017, 03:23 PM:
 
Have to agree with Joe the original cut is superior. Why do directors indulge themselves that way. Whilst the extra scenes added to the story it disrupted the flow and in my opinion weakened the film. Too long can be too much. I think Aliens was the most expensive feature I bought new at around £240 mark with discount as opposed to £300-£310 list price from Derann. Great movie and miles better than Ridley Scott's Alien which he yet again revisiting 📽📽
 
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 12, 2017, 03:45 PM:
 


[ May 13, 2017, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: Rob Young. ]
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 12, 2017, 04:26 PM:
 
Thats just it the original cut for cinema release was cut again, forced on to James Cameron because of studio pressure to reduce the running time.

I remember watching Blade Runner at the cinema and its the only time I felt like walking out of a film as I thought it was boring. But jumping forward to Ridley Scott and his return thankfully, to the film for a directors cut its brilliant.

Quite often the director is under pressure from the studios, so the film is not released as they would have wanted. Thanks to the market in home entertainment they have managed to return and get it right. Lawrence of Arabia is another I can think of, that was cut back over the years. It was only after the studio wanted to re-release it they asked David Lean back who sorted things out.

Anyway this is how the Alien got to the base in the first place [Wink]

https://youtu.be/iusPorC4wZE
 
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on May 12, 2017, 04:41 PM:
 


[ May 13, 2017, 07:13 AM: Message edited by: Rob Young. ]
 
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 12, 2017, 09:28 PM:
 
Thanks for the link Graham. Very nice.. I've never seen that before.
I am a die hard "Aliens" fan! [Smile]
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on May 12, 2017, 10:56 PM:
 
Alan your welcome [Smile]

Bye the way if you have 50 minutes to spare and have not watched the 2016 reunion on you-tube is a must to watch. One such story as to how both Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn told, that they were not allowed to watch it at the press screening, so with the permission from the cinema projectionist watched the film from the projection room [Big Grin] ...lots of good stories told on this you-tube video..

https://youtu.be/iqRjzU-G_ow

[Smile]
 


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