8mm Forum: FilmGuard Question

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Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 06, 2019, 10:43 AM:

How long does FilmGuard remain on a print? Does it wear off? Will a further renewal be needed some time later?
Can FilmGuard be removed?

Posted by David Michael Leugers (Member # 166) on September 06, 2019, 01:51 PM:

Not sure if this if of any real help to the answer, but I have what was a very badly scratched S-8mm sound feature print (all base scratches luckily) that I treated well with FilmGuard when it first became available. The film still looks great and is not ready for re-treatment. I suspect that at some time a FilmGuard treated print will need another treatment, but it does seem to last a long time. Great stuff.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on September 06, 2019, 04:59 PM:

Hi Maurice I was going to ask Brad about helping us out in the UK and EU re Filmgaurd and letting someone make it this way possibly ?

A UK friend recently bought a smaller bottle, a pint I think, and it cost him £70 with the post and crazy fees etc.

With the £1 going even further down of been even more now.

Maybe Brad could licience someone this way to make it for us etc or supply a forum member to resell etc.

Its the best stuff going so hope so.

Best Mark.

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on September 10, 2019, 02:53 PM:

Great stuff! I have been using it for years! Never had a problem!remember a little goes a long way!

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on September 10, 2019, 04:25 PM:

Is Brad about ?

Best Mark.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on September 11, 2019, 12:54 AM:

Maurice, FilmGuard will naturally evaporate on it's own after some time, which is generally a few years or longer. (The length of time depends on how much you applied, how tightly the film is wound, the storage conditions of the film, etc.) A little bit goes a VERY LONG way though.

FilmGuard can be removed with perc, but there is really no reason to.

Paul Foster in the UK is again an authorized distributor for FilmGuard. He has just received (or will any day now) a shipment of both 32oz full size kits and the new 16oz half size kits.

He can be reached at filmandtvgems@btinternet.com for orders.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 11, 2019, 04:06 AM:

Thank you, Brad.
Here's a link to Paul Foster's site. He's always a helpful seller.
http://www.fosterfilms.co.uk/index.html

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on September 11, 2019, 05:32 AM:

Thats fantastic, we should support Paul on this.

Might be a bit of a rush to buy some maybe.

Best Mark.

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on September 11, 2019, 10:30 AM:

Long live film guard! The best!

Posted by Burton Sundquist (Member # 5813) on September 12, 2019, 12:56 AM:

Brad has done well to offer this product to collectors who otherwise would not have access. I bave found it to be the best product. There's nothing better.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on September 12, 2019, 04:26 AM:

Wow Brad that is great news. I shall be contacting Paul soon with my order. [Smile]

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on September 12, 2019, 05:37 AM:

Last time I bought Filmguard was in June and it was from Jack Roe (in the UK). They may have some botles left. It may be a good idea for Europeans based outside the UK to order Filmguard before the end of October for obvious reasons.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on September 12, 2019, 07:41 AM:

Dominique, i wouldn't panic, i think we'r in for a while yet, just keep enjoying the comedy show that is Parliament.It's embarrassing and a joke. [Big Grin]

My last bottle also came from JR, i must admit i wish i hadn't bought it, the cost was not much short of a 100 quid. It shouldn't cost half that in my opinion!!

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on September 12, 2019, 03:08 PM:

I was in contact with Paul, it will be less than from Jack Roe`s, and cheaper than importing.

He`ll know the price soon.

Good news.

Best Mark.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 18, 2019, 05:08 AM:

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FilmGuard can be removed with Perc

That was Brad's very useful advice, however Perc (perchloroethylene) does not seem to be readily available. Many years ago in my cinema days we used Tric (trichloroethylene) but this also seems to have disappeared.

However, on a cinema website, I found a spray cleaner called TF-90, so I bought a can. It appears that it is the modern equivalent of tric based products.

I bought a four-reel 16mm feature which had problems taking up tightly, the film, to the feel, was very slippery. I assumed that a previous owner had probably overdone the application of FilmGuard.

I have now applied TF-90 to the film and it already feels like 16mm film should feel. When I have more time I will see if my Bell & Howell seems more happy with taking up the film.

Thank you, Brad.

https://www.taw.eu.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on October 18, 2019, 02:46 PM:

Must be part of the CFC (though no fluorine in it) reduction programme after the ozone layer whole crisis. We used gallons of trichloro-triflouroethane, a dry cleaning fluid to clean magnetic tape drives in a computer centre I worked in in the 70's and 80's.
I don't think that's available now either,

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 05, 2019, 01:49 PM:

Just got out a Bell & Howell 2592 and ran the film.
I am very pleased to say that it took up as tight as a drum, and even smells like film again.
Perhaps a previous owner was over-zealous with the application of FilmGuard.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on November 05, 2019, 04:17 PM:

Over-application of FilmGuard will not make a print takeup loosely. That was something else the prior owner put on that film.

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