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Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on February 26, 2004, 07:16 PM:

Hello all,
here are the some of the available (manufacturing on demand) sync devices:

1. P1008GS-Q (crystal control only for Elmo GS1200MO):

2. P1008GS-U (automatic crystal control & external sync unit for Elmo GS1200MO):

3. R1008MD (unit for recording sync sound while shooting film, to any stereo audio recorder with mic input):

4. P1008Q (universal synchronizer unit, direclty working with Braun Visacustic projectors and Bauer studio class projectors T502 and above, adaptable to virtually all devices with regualted DC motor):

5. B1008S (adaption kit for Bauer studio class projectors to run with P1008Q)

Pedro

Posted by Chris Quinn (Member # 129) on February 27, 2004, 02:22 AM:

Hi Pedro,
Just like to say that it's great that you are doing this sync stuff now, it's really going to fire up a lot of interest and adds more fun, can't wait to try mine out when i get it. [Smile]

What i want to know now is, how the bloody hell did you get pictures up on this forum, [Eek!]

i know your a clever fellow, but a magician as well!! [Wink]

Chris.

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on February 27, 2004, 12:05 PM:

Pedro

Good to see you posting on this forum. Your input about sync devices will be appreciated.

Sorry to see your pictures didn't get posted, amazed you managed to get any on at all, others have tried and failed, I think Brad wants to keep this as a text only site to keep the server memory thing down. [Wink]

Mike.

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on February 27, 2004, 12:33 PM:

Mike

I can see pictures [Big Grin]

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on February 27, 2004, 05:01 PM:

Pedro,
Congratulations are due. On your fourth post you've accomplished what we "expert" film handlers have failed miserably at. Posted pictures....what a concept!
Doug

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on February 28, 2004, 05:28 PM:

Hi @all:
Thanks for your replies!!!javascript:void(0)
posting picturers is quite simple, I had been successful with my 2nd try. Only click on the button UPLOAD that is located in the left column. You first upload the pics to the server, then link them ino your post. You cannot link them to other websites.

This weekend I had finished the actual "production" of the ordered P1008GS... units, my living room looks really like a little factory. All of them worked instantly and could be tested with projector.

Pedro

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on February 28, 2004, 05:31 PM:

Hi @all:
Thanks for your replies!!!javascript:void(0)
posting picturers is quite simple, I had been successful with my 2nd try. Only click on the button UPLOAD that is located in the left column. You first upload the pics to the server, then link them ino your post. You cannot link them to other websites.

This weekend I had finished the actual "production" of the ordered P1008GS... units, my living room looks really like a little factory. All of them worked instantly and could be tested with projector.

Pedro

Posted by Ricky Daniels (Member # 95) on March 02, 2004, 03:30 AM:

Here's a good one...
Highlight the pix Pedro has posted here and 'copy and paste' them into 'Word', see what you get. Looks like a serial killer!

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on March 03, 2004, 05:48 PM:

why serial killer? Everything is working with low voltage only... [Wink]

Pedro

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on March 04, 2004, 12:55 AM:

Ricky

Sorry, I don't get it. I copy them into word and all I get is more pictures ? [Frown]

Pedro, as one of the beneficiaries of your living room factory I can't wait for the postman to come calling! [Big Grin]

Just have to be nice to that Mr Quinn now [Wink]

Tony

Posted by Ricky Daniels (Member # 95) on March 04, 2004, 09:58 AM:

Guys,

It must be that my laptop's cursed! [Eek!]

When I tried to copy Pedros pics I just got one very scary pic of a guy (who due to the lighting looked like a serial killer) with some very choice text warning that bandwith had been stolen to post the pix.

Needless to say I'd rather see Pedros pix!

ATB.
Rick.

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on March 10, 2004, 03:30 PM:

Hi guys,
I would like to point out some of my original ideas for the sync units I showed to you.
Most of them (besides the Elmo devices) I had basicly developed in the beginning 1990ies, to avoid buying the expensive sound film cardriges to shoot sound film. Then is became more actual in the end of the 1990ies, when there was no sound film anymore.

The basic idea is to create a type of "virtual sound cardrige". You shoot the film, using the R1008MD interface and any standard stereo recoreder, just like tape deck, walkman, MD etc. The microfone is connected to the box, the camera is connected to the box (P.C. contact) and the box itself connects to the stereo mic input of the recorder of your choice.

Now your audio result will be a stereo recording with the dialog sound on the right track and the sync signal on the left track.
For easyest resolving, you need the Elmo GS projector with P1008GS-P or -U interface (-Q wont´t work!), or a Bauer studio class projector or Braun Visacustic projector with the P1008 synchronizer.

You stripe your developed film with magnetic tape, load the film and foreward the first frame of the sound scene into the gate. The rest is automatic. You start the audio and the synchronizer starts to scan the left sync track. When it detects a sync signal, it automatically starts your projector, that immediately records the audio in perfect sync to the sound stripe. And ready is your K40S direct sound film.

When using the R1008AVS interface for shooting and a special AV audio recorder, like the great Sony WM-D6CAV, the Uher synchro models or the Philips AV tape decks, things become even easyer. The AVS interface takes advantage of the in-built sync head and the remote control connector of the recorders. Every time when you press the camera trigger, the tape starts recording sound, even in stereo, and records a sync track to the B-side of the tape cardrige. At the end of the film roll, you have an exact image of the roll on the tape. If you don´t wish any separate editing, you can stripe the film and record the sound in one run and get your K40S roll, even in year 2004.

Pedro

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on March 10, 2004, 03:33 PM:

Hi guys,
I would like to point out some of my original ideas for the sync units I showed to you.
Most of them (besides the Elmo devices) I had basicly developed in the beginning 1990ies, to avoid buying the expensive sound film cardriges to shoot sound film. Then is became more actual in the end of the 1990ies, when there was no sound film anymore.

The basic idea is to create a type of "virtual sound cardrige". You shoot the film, using the R1008MD interface and any standard stereo recoreder, just like tape deck, walkman, MD etc. The microfone is connected to the box, the camera is connected to the box (P.C. contact) and the box itself connects to the stereo mic input of the recorder of your choice.

Now your audio result will be a stereo recording with the dialog sound on the right track and the sync signal on the left track.
For easyest resolving, you need the Elmo GS projector with P1008GS-P or -U interface (-Q wont´t work!), or a Bauer studio class projector or Braun Visacustic projector with the P1008 synchronizer.

You stripe your developed film with magnetic tape, load the film and foreward the first frame of the sound scene into the gate. The rest is automatic. You start the audio and the synchronizer starts to scan the left sync track. When it detects a sync signal, it automatically starts your projector, that immediately records the audio in perfect sync to the sound stripe. And ready is your K40S direct sound film.

When using the R1008AVS interface for shooting and a special AV audio recorder, like the great Sony WM-D6CAV, the Uher synchro models or the Philips AV tape decks, things become even easyer. The AVS interface takes advantage of the in-built sync head and the remote control connector of the recorders. Every time when you press the camera trigger, the tape starts recording sound, even in stereo, and records a sync track to the B-side of the tape cardrige. At the end of the film roll, you have an exact image of the roll on the tape. If you don´t wish any separate editing, you can stripe the film and record the sound in one run and get your K40S roll, even in year 2004.

Pedro

Posted by Ricky Daniels (Member # 95) on March 11, 2004, 01:55 AM:

Hi Pedro,
My P1008GS-U has arrived in the UK, I think you've done a great job, it looks very professional. Of course I haven't used it yet but I'm sure it will give me hours of fun!
All the best,
Ricky.

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on March 11, 2004, 10:06 AM:

Pedro

Mine arrived too, many thanks, it is excellent. Managed to do a synch of Gladiator within a matter of minues and it stayed in synch all the way through.

Brilliant.

Tony

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on March 11, 2004, 11:48 AM:

Got mine too! Haven't had a proper chance to play with it yet but the weekend is coming up......... [Wink]

Thanks Pedro

Mike

Posted by Pedro Santos (Member # 167) on March 14, 2004, 03:01 PM:

Hello guys!

Thanks for the feedabacks! Wow, where do you get all that S8 feature prints?

Question: Can anybody of you report any problems when starting up the GS1200MO using the ESS socket? Does it immediately run at the clocked crystal speed or need any swing up-swing down loops until it really syncs? This effect may occure and depends on the projector´s internal speed regulation board.

Unfortunatly, the projector syncs only within the time of the actual frame, it has no internal frame memory that could compensate mechanical obvious delays during start and stop phases.

The behaviour of Bauer/Braun projectors with my "big" synchronizer model P1008(-Q) is much better, because the regulation is looped completly inside the synchronizer, with +/- 128 frames memory, and does not depend on 20+ year old electronics of the projector used.

Pedro

Posted by Chris Quinn (Member # 129) on March 15, 2004, 03:57 AM:

Hi Pedro,
The sync unit looks really professional, unfortunately I am waiting to get a DVD to sync to, but the GS works fine when connected to the sync unit, stopping and starting on the wait switch and running with the pulse needle bang in the middle.

Thanks again Pedro, Chris.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on December 13, 2004, 05:57 AM:

Anyone have current contact details for Pedro? The email in his profile bounces back.

Mr. Wilton and I both want one of his boxes. Could be something to do with Chris Quinn demonstrating his at the Wilton Multiplex the other weekend.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 13, 2004, 03:41 PM:

Chris, Your GS1200's speed control board was set up using my earlier sync (Pedro) unit.
I find that if you set the projector up, as I was explaining over at KW's then the projector is rock steady on the ESS setting.

Kev.

Glad you have joined us over on this forum Pedro. [Smile]

I would like one of those nice printed fronts and a green light on mine too [Frown]

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on December 13, 2004, 04:31 PM:

John,

My e-mails to Pedro have gone unanswered for quite some time.

[Confused]

Doug

Posted by Ken Souza (Member # 108) on December 14, 2004, 10:32 AM:

Hi Pedro

I would love to get one of the synch units for my GS1200. Do they work here in the US? I have been told that some do and some don't.

Can you let me know if you have one that can or know of one. You can send me a not at sffilm@aol.com

Thanks Ken

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