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Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 29, 2005, 06:55 AM:

I dont think i've seen this question on here before but how many of this forums members subscribe to our one and only dedicated magazine, Film for the collector via Derann Films? Mind if we have a count? i'll total up and see what happens, it may also be interesting,(i think),if anyone reading this posting "use" to subscribe but now doesn''t, If i'm not being nosey im sure anyone from Derann Reading this post may also be interesting for any reasons given. [Wink]

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 29, 2005, 09:32 AM:

I've heard this FFTC thing mentioned before... but I'm really clueless as to what exactly it even is... Well, I roughly know it's a magazine for collectors. [Roll Eyes]

But who makes it? Derann themselves? How often do new issues come out? Can people in the US subscribe? How, and what is the cost? ... You see, I don't even know any of these things. [Eek!]

I think a sample issue would be great if there's a way to get one. [Smile]

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 29, 2005, 11:12 AM:

"Film For The Collector" is a must have for anyone reading these posts! How many other magazines have a Super 8MM film review section?
Subscriptions are available through Derann (who is also the publisher) and the cost for we Stateside folks is 22 pounds for 4 issues over a 15 month period. I know that comes to $11.00 an issue but where else can you read the prose of Keith Wilton, John Clancy, Barry Littlechild, Tom Photiou, Paul Adsett, and .....me? (Aside from this forum, of course!) The last issue even had a pic of Tony Milman, suitable for framing (The picture, not Tony).

e-mail gary@derann.co.uk for info.

Doug

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 29, 2005, 01:52 PM:

Thank you kindly, good sir [Smile]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 29, 2005, 01:52 PM:

Get on Jan, thats two replies to this very important issue, Film for the collector is "our" magazine and is for all readers to take part if they so wish by putting in an article as long as it is "film" related. So lets have other names of those who do and dont subscribe and enlighten those who dont so they can subscribe now,while its still going. As they say at Derann, a lack of input will stop its publication.
So far thats Two( inc myself) that do and one that doesn't. Whos next?

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on May 29, 2005, 03:54 PM:

The next issue is set for some changes. Keith's done the complete "Super 8 Film Review" section himself in-house so we should see some improvement there. Steve's from Derann is putting the magazine together now so he'll hopefully pull a rabbit out of the hat and the improve the magazine overall.

Bazzer Attwood of Independent 8 is taking up a regular article I understand. I always really enjoy his own newsletters so they've probably poached him for that reason. Then there's Tom's Techy Bit, Barry Littlechild's Report, Tony Shapps Widescreen Centre news and 8mm related section (I wonder what he'll have to say regarding the death of Kodachrome), Bryan Haines column, etc. etc. etc..

It's not a glossy magazine so don't expect too much. But it is one of the few publications left. "The Reel Image" in the US is a nice little mag too. Much smaller than Derann's offering but certainly worthwhile.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 29, 2005, 06:20 PM:

Yes John, but when are we going to see the next issue? It seems like ages since we saw the last one [Frown]

Kev.

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on May 29, 2005, 06:27 PM:

I subscribe to FFTC, and love it.

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 29, 2005, 08:54 PM:

And I just sent an e-mail to Gary. [Smile]

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on May 30, 2005, 03:02 AM:

Well done Jan. If we all subscribed it would give the magazine a lease of life and help keep the hobby healthy for longer.

Kevin, the next issue is in the final stages. I know because Derann have been talking to Keith about the "Super 8 Film Review" pages he submitted just over a week ago. The problem we have nowadays is there isn't enough going on to fill the quarterly issues we used to enjoy so it takes around 4 to 5 months between issues in today's market. Better to have something worthwhile going out than just a regular load of waffle with the odd new film review thrown in.

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on May 30, 2005, 03:30 AM:

I am still surprised how many people who collect film do not know much (or anything!) about Derann, this came to light to me at the recent BFCC in Ealing, when a man with a bag full of films came up to the Derann counter and asked who they were, and I believe it was Gary of Derann who went through the spiel about the lists and magazine etc. So after seeing that first hand, I'm not surprised that there are still collectors out there who do not know about FFTC, as it is produced, published and distributed by Derann, and from the next issue will be done all in-house, and yes as John Clancy suggested, I have done a column/article, but thankfully for ALL you collectors out their, the suggested idea of including a picture of myself was dropped, as the old "H" certificate would have had to be re-introduced here in the U.K.

All I can say to anyone who has yet to subscribe, then I urge you to do so, as there are many 8mm dealers who advertise only in FFTC, and you can never have too many dearlers numbers. Then there are the reviews of the latest releases, which are always fair and honest, together with articles and comments, this is a must for any 8mm collector. Contact Derann Film Services for the latest subscription prices, wherever you live.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 30, 2005, 05:46 AM:

Barry, your comments about people in the collecting world not knowing or heard of Derann before has really surprised me. Thats incredible.

Kev

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on May 30, 2005, 10:19 AM:

Dear Kevin,

Well if you think about it, if someone has just come to 8mm collecting and has been buying mostly via ebay or the like, then perhaps it is possible not to know, perhaps he didn't realise Derann were still going, you think how many distributors have folded, but 2nd hand prints still exsist (Walton - Ken - Iver etc.), that may just be the simple reason, because if your not on a big dealers mailing lists, and Derann are only mentioned in passing, then perhaps this can explain it, still whatever the explanation, I was then, and I am still stunned, to think he didn't know who Derann was initially.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 30, 2005, 12:30 PM:

So thats about 4-6 i count at the moment, Who else,
Who's not reading the tag? [Eek!]

Come on lads i'm counting and am tryig to get a tab together.

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on May 30, 2005, 12:40 PM:

I'm a subscriber, I also keep meaning to write an article for publication but it's just one of the many things I never seem to get round to.

As my school report regularly read; must make more effort. [Roll Eyes]

Mike

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on May 30, 2005, 02:18 PM:

Me too! They even published one of my articles. I think I may get around to writing another one.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 30, 2005, 02:33 PM:

Hi Mike and Paul.
Mike, are you goinf to be able to do the MGM one you mentioned before, that would be good, [Wink]

Paul, i was looking through some early mags and did read your article, be good to see some more from you mate.
So what of the other members of this forum????
How many is there Kev and Doug?

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 30, 2005, 02:46 PM:

This may be premature but I haven't heard back from Gary yet, and I don't suppose today (May 30) is a holiday in the UK as it is here in the States, so I expected him to be getting around to it today. Should I just be more patient?
I put "DFS" in the subject line of my email, is that enough or should I email Duncan instead? I'm not sure but I thought there was a temporary problem with Gary not receiving any email and to email Duncan instead. Should I have done that? [Confused]

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on May 30, 2005, 03:00 PM:

Jan, it's a bank holiday at the moment here in the UK [you can always tell; there's been heavy rain and thunder here in Sussex] so Gary won't get your mail until tomorrow [Tuesday].

I know he reads the forum too, so if he doesn't get your mail he will at least know you have been trying to contact him.

Mike [Cool]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 30, 2005, 03:15 PM:

Rain & thunder??? [Eek!]

I'm sunburnt from Looe beech, its been summer in Devon.
Wonder if Projections would let Derann put an ad in that mag for FFTC [Big Grin]

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 30, 2005, 08:15 PM:

Oh, so there IS a holiday. (Or rather, WAS.) Okay, then. Thanks Mike. [Big Grin]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 31, 2005, 02:25 PM:

WOW 353 forum registered members and only a handfull answering the question, [Eek!]

OK lets have one more go, alltogether now,
Do you subscribe to FFTC magazine via derann?? I'm just toying to see just how many users here read the tags and how much super 8 in danger of becoming extinct,Amazing to read that some people dont even know of Derann. I think a tv documentry about our hobby is called for, lets bring it back to life, after all steam trains are still going and have there followers,

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on May 31, 2005, 04:59 PM:

Hello Tom
I reckon the FFTC subscribers here are holding out confirming their subscriptions to test your patience (& blood pressure!). I am pleased to confirm I subscribe to FFTC and a very good read it is too. I've been lucky enough to plug the gaps in my collection and now have the whole set from Sept 1985 to the present day. I find the reviews a great asset when deciding on film or equipment purchases, and the servicing and repair tips help to bring the very best performance and enjoyment to the hobby. Just a thought though - do you think that film collectors that don't use the internet may form the largest proportion of FFTC subscribers due to their reliance upon printed media, and the possible low uptake of the other 340 or so members here is simply because 8mm Forum users are more comfortable with purely web based media these days; maybe they are also reluctant to pay when snippets of similar content is available free via the web? If this is the case I would advise any current non-subscribers to subscribe and give the magazine a try and I'm sure they would feel they are getting value for their money once they have read an issue or two.

Posted by Bob Pucci (Member # 8) on May 31, 2005, 07:00 PM:

I subscribe too and I love it.I have renewed it twice already.

Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on June 01, 2005, 09:09 AM:

Hi-

Well, I'm ashamed to say, I am not a member or subscriber to Film For The Collector [Frown]

.

I have read a copy or two of the magazine in the past and loved it. I really don't have a valid excuse for not subscribing, except maybe too lazy to pick up the phone and call Derann to subscribe. [Roll Eyes]

Incedently, I have been a subscriber to The Reel Image (formerly Coming Attractions) magazine since the 80's and will not miss an issue. Even the magazine's great publisher Steve Osborne has been telling me to subscribe to FFTC for years now!

At this time, I vow to become a subscriber to FFTC. Just give me till August! [Wink]

Nick.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 01, 2005, 11:29 AM:

Cheers, I'm keeping a count,i must admit i did miss some years myself and do wonder if any one has any early ones they ever want to sell on i'd be happy to take. The film reviews are a must,KW and co do a good job there,
Next please.. [Wink]

I'm not even up to a dozen on the count yet. More so i wonder if there are any EX subscribers? maybe if there are they could perhaps say why they dont anymore, [Wink]

10 so far. Yike

Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on June 01, 2005, 12:46 PM:

Add one more to your list, Tom.
Mal

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on June 01, 2005, 01:52 PM:

Maybe Gary or Duncan could tell us what the circulation numbers are for FFTC?

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 01, 2005, 02:35 PM:

I did try that one but true to there word it is confidential so i thought i'd go down this road. It is good that Derann do stick to the data protection act other wise it would be breaking the law, however it would be good to see some numbers as it would be a good guide to the state of the hobby,11 and counting, where are the other few hundrud members [Big Grin]

Posted by peter booth (Member # 242) on June 08, 2005, 08:39 AM:

Hi Tom,I also subscribe to FFTC magazine,have done for a few years,after the sad demise of ACE mag I have just started subscribing to International Movie Making magazine published Quarterly by Roy Salmons at £12 a year,its about the same size as ACE,price includes post & packing.contact email is roysalmons@supanet.com,or write to,29,Roumania Crescent,Craig-y-don,LLANDUDNO.LL30 1UN.Excellent magazine with articles and free advertising to private subscribers,well worth a preview,cheers,Peter.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 08, 2005, 01:24 PM:

Hello Pete, How you keeping? Thank you for that, i will be sending my cheque off for that one as well. [Wink]

Posted by peter booth (Member # 242) on June 08, 2005, 04:03 PM:

Hi Tom,I'm keeping very well as I hope you are,I haven't posted for a while as I have been upgrading all my previous equipment.I now have an ST1200HD,2xEumig 824 Sonomatics,and upgraded my video projector to the Panasonic PTAE700 projector.I have just sold on ebay my Eumig 810D projector for £142 but it had just been serviced so broke even with that.Apart from looking for another Elmo ST1200 I think my collection is complete,cheers for now,Peter.

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on June 08, 2005, 08:59 PM:

I'd forgotten all about the whole FFTC deal. Have not been able to reach either Gary or Duncan at Derann - Gary got wind that I had emailed him once before and asked me to resend my message but on the second try it came back as a delivery failure notice. Same thing happened when I re-sent my email to Duncan (asking him to forward it to Gary).

What is going on here? [Confused]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 09, 2005, 10:11 AM:

Hello Jan, if you e-mail Derann you must put DFS as the subject otherwise they reject it because they had too much trouble with spam mail so to elieviate the problem they ask us to start our subject with DFS. [Wink]

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on June 09, 2005, 06:58 PM:

Way ahead of you there, Tom... Unless what you're actually saying is that the subject line must BEGIN with 'DFS' [Confused]

Or should it say 'DFS' only, and nothing else?

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on June 09, 2005, 11:09 PM:

I'm sure a number of you received an e-mail from Gary today that he's on holiday till June 20th.

Doug

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 10, 2005, 11:26 AM:

The subject line must begin with DFS [Wink]

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on June 10, 2005, 06:48 PM:

Tom,

thanks...! Now if you'll follow me to the back yard please as I need someone to line me up and shoot me!! [Roll Eyes]

I did not realize the subject had to BEGIN with 'DFS'... and I also did not think that Derann's spam filter would actually return unwanted mail to the sender with a delivery failure notice - that's why I thought there was an actual technical problem, rather than my mail being mistaken for spam! [Eek!]

I'll know better next time... [Wink]

indeed Gary has emailed me once again asking that I reply to his message for testing purposes... Gary, if you read this, I'm getting around to it soon [Wink]

(unless you already left for vacation) [Cool]

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