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Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 03, 2006, 09:14 PM:

I'm just a beginer at this Super 8mm projecting. I bought a pack of Quik Splice Tape from the US the other day to start splicing together all my old family 50ft super 8mm tapes. All I need to do is join each tape together to fill up a 400ft reel. I won't be doing any editoring as this will all be done on the computer.Now my problem starts > as there's no directions on the Quik Splice packet as to how to use them.
If you can give us some tips on what you have to do to join two tapes together using this splicing tape would be so great.
Cheers Paul
paulg57@bigpond.net.au

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on August 03, 2006, 09:57 PM:

Hi Paul,

actually these tapes are meant for use with a splicer (a small device that cuts the film ends in just the right place and guides you in applying the splice tape over them), but I gather that you don't have one of these. I'm also assuming that the splice tapes are already perforated, meaning they have holes along the edge designed to match up with the sprocket holes on the film. Pretty much any splicer should do the trick for you - some will work perfectly with the splice tapes you have, others may be designed for different kinds of splice tapes but should still work well with yours except they might require you to apply the tape to the film by hand (carefully matching up the edges and everything) - just be sure to look for a tape splicer, not a cement or "wet" splicer. The latter cut film in a different way that is not suitable for application of tape ("dry") splices.

Hope this helps [Smile]

Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 03, 2006, 11:47 PM:

Thanks Jan > I do have a splicer I got off the net but as I'm at work I can't recall its name. Very much like a LPL Splicer maybe a Hudson Photographics Splicer. BUT it didn't come with any instructions. So I'm up the creek. Yes the Quik Splice Tape is for Super 8mm tape & has sprocket holes in it. Looks like you peel off the paper & stick half on one side of the tape & fold it over the sprocket side of the tape to the other side. I'll include a pic of this LPL splicer which is nearly the same as mine. Maybe then you might be able to explain what to do..
Regards Paul

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on August 04, 2006, 12:14 AM:

I have two of these LPL splicers myself, actually [Wink]

Sadly I didn't keep the instruction card that came with one of them, but I do remember the following procedure: Lift up everything except the right-hand film guide (lower part), keep the cutter (upper part) in the up position. Insert film into guide pins and lower the right-hand cutter to keep film in place. Lower the left-hand guide to cut the film, then raise it again. Raise the right-hand guide and cutter up together, in one piece, then lower the left-hand guide once again to insert the other film end. Lower the left-hand cutter. NOW, lower the right-hand guide/cutter to cut the film, then raise it. (WHEW!)
And here's the problem: At this step, you have two film ends that slightly overlap. The next step would be scraping the emulsion off one end, then applying cement and gluing them together. In order to splice them using tape, the film ends must touch each other without overlapping, so that's why this cement splicer isn't going to help you much...

Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 04, 2006, 12:23 AM:

Thanks again Jan > I can see I'm on a big learning curve here.
So now I have to look for a butt end joiner splicer or buy cement. I think I need to stick to the tape which was the most expensive out of the two items. Can you recommend a good brand of splicer to look out for ?
Regards Paul

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on August 04, 2006, 12:25 AM:

The Agfa F8S is a very nice tape splicer... and also happens to be the only one I can find on ebay.com.au [Big Grin]

it's not exactly cheap but not overpriced either:
Click Me

Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 04, 2006, 01:34 AM:

Jan > I've found these 2 on the net.. What do you think ?
Paul

Posted by Craig Hamilton (Member # 258) on August 04, 2006, 05:17 AM:

Paul, the bottom photo is a Cinepress. This has to be the simplest splicer to use for tape. Splices made with this machine are generally good & strong.

These can be picked up on Ebay in the UK for as little as £5 GB Pounds.

Craig

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on August 04, 2006, 10:21 AM:

These will do very nicely indeed. [Smile]

Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 04, 2006, 02:54 PM:

Jan & Craig > Thanks for your advice & I'm off to buy a Cinepress.
Regards Paul

Posted by Kurt Gardner (Member # 440) on August 04, 2006, 03:46 PM:

And remember -- it's super 8 FILM!!! [Smile]

Posted by Paul Gray (Member # 644) on August 05, 2006, 12:00 AM:

Thanks Kurt > I'll make sure it's for Super 8mm film. I've put a buy now in ebay for that Cinepress. Regards Paul

Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on August 09, 2006, 07:04 AM:

Hi Guys,

Jan that Agfa splicer link is to one of mine. Good to know I'm not too cheap or too high priced!

Remember my prices are in Australian dollars (less than US dollars)and include original Agfa splicing tapes as well.

In my opinion the Agfa F8S is the best all round mid range Super 8 splicer. It is fully automatic and always makes precision joins. The manual and semi automatic splicers often leave you with jumpy joins.

David

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on August 10, 2006, 12:26 AM:

Wow, it is a small world out there in cyberspace. [Eek!]

Maybe the lot of us should start a thread where everybody can post their eBay ID... so we know who's who. [Wink]

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