8mm Forum: SUPER 8 OPTICAL SOUND MYSTERY SOLVED!!

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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 15, 2007, 02:12 PM:

I just recieved a print (super 8 optical sound) of the Feature film, "Just You and Me Kid" (George Burns, Brooke Sheilds, Burl Ives, Ray Bolger). It's a very nice print with excellent colour. I principally bought it as it had a number of actors in it in the twilight of thier Career, (Burns, Bolger and Ives), and it's not these guys at thier peak, but it's still fun.

The mystery was this. Anybody who has optical sound features will be well aquainted with the black line on the sprocket side of the film, which obscures the film stock.
This was always a little frustrating, as I love to compare stocks.

This particular print has the original lab leaders.
At one point on the lab leaders, the black line disappears,
and the actual film stock is finally revealed :

Eastman 022 (or "o-22")

This is obviously not the bad fade Eastman, and many Eastman film stocks from the early 70's on up have great non-fade qualities, (My print of "Romance of a Horsthief", 1971 has no fade whatsoever), but I'm curious, (as I've forgotten what Kevin Faulkner said about this), as to when LPP actually showed up? This print is from 1979, no fade whatsoever and is a beautiful site to see.

Mystery revealed.

So, if you have optical sound films, and you have wondered what stock was used, this was, at least one of the film stocks.

Sadly, this wasn't always the case. My print of "Gorky Park" (1983) is the worst Eastman stock, and it's pinky, still has the colour, but pink (dammit!) and from what I have read from other people with Gorky, thier prints are pinky as well.

Oh, not really related to the mystery ....

This was released by Columbia pictures, and it has that great late 70's logo with the orignal image, that becomes a brilliant sunbeam, before going to the modern look. This film has no fade and so that logo is brilliant. It was always one of my favorite studio logo's.

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