8mm Forum: Striping Film

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Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on February 20, 2007, 04:04 PM:

I've been inspired by the forum to dig out my old 8mm camera and take it on holiday next week.

Now that we're in the age of silent film stock; how hard is it to stripe film? I see stripers on E-Bay from time to time. Are they worth getting, or do people use a professional service? Can you put stripe over cement / tape joins?

cheers
Stewart

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on February 20, 2007, 04:35 PM:

I've never done striping myself but ive been warned enough times to stay away from it as it can be a very time consuming and annoying process trying to get the stripe to stay strait even using these striping machines. I myself sent my films to EVT magnetics in East Sussex and they did a very professional job applying both a main and balance stripe and it didnt cost that much.

Posted by Simon McConway (Member # 219) on February 20, 2007, 05:46 PM:

Yes, for striping, it's best to send to E v T Magnetics. In fact, I've just sent (yesterday) a 400' reel to them for main striping. It's always quickly done at a reasonable price. Saves you the hassle and annoyance of doing it yourself.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on February 20, 2007, 05:51 PM:

I use Evt myself despite the Ocean in between.

Sure it's possible to do it yourself, but there's quite a learning curve along the way and it's just not worth messing up your films while you figure out the recipe!

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on February 20, 2007, 06:20 PM:

Just out of interest - can people with home striping machines still buy the stripe? Can't be much demand for it!

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on February 20, 2007, 07:37 PM:

Yes,

I believe it's still available from Andec, but based on what I've read about the process I'd rather leave it to EVT.

It sounds a little too much like home dentistry, much better left to the pros!

Posted by Dave Johnson (Member # 628) on February 21, 2007, 04:03 AM:

Hi,All
I'M interested in this service could someone supply a snail mail address or email thanks

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on February 21, 2007, 05:13 AM:

Hi,

* polyester-based film stock (Single8-Fujichrome, Super8-Ferrania/3M-stock, Super8-Positive-Printfilm used by Andec, ...) can't be striped at home (I only know of three companies that could still do that and two of them only do Single8-Fujichrome!)
* acetate-based film stock can be striped at home and several companies offer that service - BUT!!! Everyone did have serious problems striping the e64t! It looks like you'll either have to use a special glue or you'll have to mill the soundtrack-area before striping it! As a result at least two companies here in Germany refuse to accept "unmilled" e64t for striping and most others will only do the main track! (You might have the same problem with the e100d, the Cinevia isn't affected by this problem.)
* There used to be at least two different manufacturers for the needed tape for striping acetate-based films: Agfa and Orwo. The Afga-tape was the better one, but most companies are out of stock. So you have to use Orwo-material that's less prone to abrasion caused by the sound-head of most projectors and less prone to react with some film-cleaners.
* Wittner is selling the needed glue/tape, too ("Tonspur und Tonspurkleber"):
http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/03_verbr/d_s8mm.php
* I've got two home-striping machines for Super8/Regular8, but so far I've never used them.
* http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Category:FAQ has got a list of Super8-related companies. The ones doing sound-striping are either marked as "sound-striping", "soundstriping" or "striping" or as "(processing) lab".

Jörg

Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on February 21, 2007, 06:32 AM:

Joerg-

I recently sent to EVT a 400 foot reel that contained multiple types of film (k-40, black and white, and the new E64T) for sound striping, main and balance. They came back to me about two weeks later and I have successfully cleaned and recorded on them and there doesn't seem to be any problems with the 64 at all.

It seems that the good people at EVT have mastered even the difficult stocks. I might add that they are also very fast, friendly, effecient and affordable, even with the U.S.A. to England details. I've waited longer and paid more when I've used U.S.A. companies.

James.

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on February 21, 2007, 07:09 AM:

I too can testify to the good sevice offered by EVT, I have only used them a couple of times but on each occasion the film was returned very quickly and with very good quality stripe.

I have also heard that they have been successful in striping the new E64T.

Mike

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on February 21, 2007, 01:59 PM:

Whats the situation with the fuji super 8 from germany now please anyone, where do you get it again, please.
Thanks Mark.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on February 21, 2007, 03:50 PM:

Home striping [Roll Eyes]

those were the days, a lot of fun I quickly learned the importance of tape splices, I used a Rexette striper and it worked really well. The Rexette was very well made, I still have a home movie where you can see the stripe veering quickly across the screen [Eek!]

"must have bump it" I was going to edit it out but after 20 years or so its now a talking point, "there goes the sound" [Big Grin]

so have left it.

Graham [Smile]

Posted by Glenn Brady (Member # 715) on February 21, 2007, 06:24 PM:

I used a Weberling amateur striper in the 1970s without encountering any problems. This gadget worked properly right out of the box, and the striping done then is still adhered to the film and still has the sound recording I put on it. Weberling amateur stripers are simple and robust, so it's easy to refurbish them. They were originally supplied with drive sprockets to suit either regular 8mm or Super 8. Some Weberling machines could apply a balance stripe, too, and these appear from time-to-time at eBay.Deutschland. The larger, professional Weberling groovers and stripers are better still, although uncommon.

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on February 22, 2007, 04:19 AM:

quote:
Whats the situation with the fuji super 8 from germany now please anyone, where do you get it again, please.
Thanks Mark.

So far all reports about the Fuji Velvia 50D (sold as Cinevia, WittnerCHROME V50D and under several other names) say that it can be striped as easily as the Kodachrome 40.

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