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Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 10, 2007, 03:28 AM:

Having bought an old Super 8 film which the seller had treated with FilmGuard I would be interested to hear Forum's members experience of this product.

I clean films using Isopropyl Alcohol B.P. which evaporates after use, but FilmGuard seems to stay on the print creating an oily appearance.

Maurice

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on December 10, 2007, 04:23 AM:

Maurice, use the "search" feature of this forum as the question has been heavily debated... You will find gazillions of opinions and answers, some of them in conflict with one another. You'll have to judge. Personnaly, I like Film Guard and Film Renew...

Posted by David Pannell (Member # 300) on December 10, 2007, 05:38 AM:

I'm with Jean-Marc, though I use Filmguard exclusively.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 10, 2007, 06:33 AM:

Thank you, Gentlemen.

I've used "Search" and there seems a wide divergence of opinion of the various products for cleaning and lubricating film.

There was was one question about removing the sticky bits on leaders left by adhesive tape. For this I use "Plaster Remover" made by Adams of Leeds. This is sold for removing the sticky pieces which are often left by plasters (Elastoplast, etc.) removed from the skin. I obtained mine from Boots Pharmacy. The label says it contains a hydrocarbon blend (whatever that is.)

Maurice

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 10, 2007, 08:05 AM:

Just a short message Maurice from my semi sick bed and only fresh back from hospital Friday…Not a good month.

Kevin gave me some sound advice a bit back. Best not to use Iso on Acetate film as it does not do it much good in the long term. I now use Film Renew and it seems to suit my films here very well. I buy a large plastic container and break down for local collectors onto 250ml bottles. We all now use FR and it works for us.

I know nothing about Film Guard but many seem to like it although it does seem expensive perhaps.

Happy Christmas film shows..

PS. You can buy FILMGUARD direct from Jack Roe email
sales@jack-roe.co.uk

They are the only authorised supplier of this chemical in the UK for Filmguard.

[ December 10, 2007, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: Lee Mannering ]

Posted by David Pannell (Member # 300) on December 10, 2007, 12:59 PM:

Paul Foster of Foster Films is also a supplier of genuine FilmGuard. Visit www.fosterfilms.co.uk

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on December 10, 2007, 01:54 PM:

Hi David,

I've begun using FilmGuard recently, but, I do worry about the fact that the print stays wet.

How and when do you use it? Do you store films still "wet" ?

-Mike.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 10, 2007, 02:16 PM:

Maurice,

The only good advice I can offer, (as it scared me as to what you stated) ...

NEVER clean a film with alcohol based cleaners, as they will, with many uses, prematurely age your film, as the alcohol has a drying effect, that will tend to work it's way into the film.

I'm sure there will be some that may say the opposite, but the very chemical nature of alcohol would work against film in the long term.

Posted by David Pannell (Member # 300) on December 10, 2007, 04:40 PM:

Hi Michael,

It depends what you mean by 'wet'. The advantage of FilmGuard is that it keeps the film AND the film path of your projector lubricated. It is a proper film lubricant as well as a cleaner. The film shouldn't be 'wet' as such, but should have a very thin film (if you'll forgive the pun) of lubricant. It should just feel barely oily to the touch.

Hope this helps.

Best,

[ December 11, 2007, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: David Pannell ]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on December 10, 2007, 11:23 PM:

Remember 1 ounce of FilmGuard is enough to clean a 12,000-16,000 foot roll of 35mm film for 3 dozen cleanings. Now do the math and translate that into 8mm. As you can clearly see, one quart of FilmGuard is going to properly clean WAY WAY WAY more than gallons of any other cleaner.

The trick is simply not to go overboard with it because it takes very little for it to work it's magic.

Posted by David Ian Turner (Member # 1667) on April 23, 2010, 09:33 AM:

Hi everyone

Does anyone know where I can get FilmGuard in Australia?

I tried my local cinema supplies shop (Edge Digital Technology) however they sold their last bottle a while ago and do not intend to stock any more as there is no demand for it. Apparently cinemas that still use film now use Particle Transfer Rollers (PTR) to clean and lubricate their films while running them.

Thank you

David Turner
Morphett Vale
South Australia

Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 1337) on April 23, 2010, 10:05 AM:

quote:

Does anyone know where I can get FilmGuard in Australia

Try these (hopefully current) details from the mother site.

Intec Pacific
Ground Floor
44 Carrington Road
Castle Hill NSW 2154
Australia
Phone: +61 (2) 9894 4388
intec@unwired.com.au

Posted by David Ian Turner (Member # 1667) on April 23, 2010, 11:24 PM:

Hi Damien

Thank you for your prompt reply. I should have tried looking it up myself on Internet Explorer!

I have sent them an e-mail. We'll see what happens.

I have also sent an e-mail to Cinetech Australia.

Thanks again

David Turner
Morphett Vale
South Australia

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