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Posted by Brian Collins (Member # 761) on February 09, 2008, 12:11 PM:

On 8mm sound is there magnetic and optical?, I know there is on 16mm but I do not know about 8mm, can someone enlighten me on this subject please, thanks.
Brian

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on February 09, 2008, 12:15 PM:

Yes, both. I had an 8mm optical print of the Life And Times Of Grizzly Adams, Very rare to find optical prints but they are out there

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 09, 2008, 12:49 PM:

True, I almost bought a print of "Futureworld" 8mm optical sound.

I wonder how many were actually released in standard 8mm optical sound!

and i thought that Super 8mm optical sound were somewhat rare!

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on February 09, 2008, 02:45 PM:

What 8mm optical sound projectors exist?

-Mike

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 09, 2008, 04:57 PM:

I know of one for sure, (can't remember the serial number or name), and it was talked about on this forum, but I can't imagine that there were many prints in this format. I was kind of shocked that there were standard 8mm prints of
"Futureworld", as this is a 1976 feature, and standard 8mm was all but dead by this point, almost completely eclipsed by Super 8, (and strangely enough, super 8 was to be eclipsed in just 5 or 6 years!)

Posted by Dave Cragg (Member # 401) on February 09, 2008, 06:35 PM:

Following on from this;
were there ever any optical sound cameras or even standard 8 magnetic sound cameras, or did we have to wait until 1973 and super 8 before we could make 8mm sound films?

Dave

Posted by John Whittle (Member # 22) on February 09, 2008, 11:05 PM:

As far as I know there was never a commercial regular 8mm optical sound camera. There were three regular 8mm magnetic sound the cameras. The Fairchild 8 followed by the Fairchild zoom 8 followed by the Fairchild 900. The last model was produced in Japan for Fairchild, the first two were produced in the US. The first camera came out in 1960 and the 900 was announced just as Super8 was announced which doomed it.

Bach-Auricon may have produced something, they did do some special cameras for the military, but a lack of SMPTE standards and lack of projectors didn't make it practical. The first regular 8mm optical sound projector I remember was the Toei or something like that. They didn't have a US distributor.

Later some other projectors were produced in other parts of the world, but it was never a popular or even "findable" format in the US.

John

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 11, 2008, 08:57 PM:

That's quite true John. Derann got the rights to release a number of optical titles right at the end of optical sound, (arounbd 1987-90, or so), and it is amazing that there are so many titles floating around out there, (somewhere around 200 feature titles alone!)

So, thank you to all those rabid collectors, as i wouldn't have all the titles I have to this day!

Posted by John Whittle (Member # 22) on February 13, 2008, 08:41 AM:

Almost all of the optical sound feature prints were Super8 and not regular 8mm and were originally made for InFlite Motion Picture Service. There were several film projection systems used on the airliners. Most were 16mm and some of those even used a special 1.75x anamorphic lens for a true 2.35 scope picture, but then they went to Super 8 and optical sound and then to video tape all the way down to high eight.

Regular 8mm magnetic sound features came from all the usual PD suppliers of 16mm prints licensened distributors as well such as Blackhawk and Derann.
John

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