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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 27, 2008, 12:59 PM:

Hey, I saw, (verified) that, as of this Sunday, with five hours to go, there is a copy of ALIEN, 200ft edition, Super 8mm color, with an audio cassette for the sound. It's complete.
Note, it's on American ebay, super 8 listing. (it's twelve noon, so it ends at approximetely 5 p.m. today.)

My question for those who have had these 200 ft super 8 editions with the cassettes, were these cassettes in stereo?
If they were, a savvy collector could synch it onto the film, as I believe, though silent, they had sound stripe on the films already, just no sound with a cassette.

The film is already up to a little over 40.00 dollars as of this time.

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on April 27, 2008, 02:02 PM:

Osi, the sound is already on the mag track.
The one I have is in mono.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on April 27, 2008, 04:26 PM:

As JM says the Cassette was mono as was the sound already on the film. [Frown]

Kev.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 27, 2008, 05:16 PM:

Okay, I'm trying to fugire the logic of including the soundtrack on cassette ...

The only thing I can think of, is that you would of course have better sound with the cassette on your "hi-fi" back then, eh?

Did this 200ft edition have anything different than the 400ft edition, I mean, footage not found on the 400ft?

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 27, 2008, 05:30 PM:

I'm baffled by the film having stripe and sound, as it was obvously marketed to people without a sound projector. Considering that the package was more expensive to produce than a normal sound edition, I wondered if anyone might know if the original price was higher?

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on April 27, 2008, 06:09 PM:

Adrian, I dont think the 200ft version sold without the cassette.
It was sold as a sound/silent version and was basically a gimmick.
How on earth anyone with a silent machine could keep their machine in sync with the cassette is beyond me. Keeping 50ft in wild sync is bad enough let alone 200ft.

Kev

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 27, 2008, 10:35 PM:

Still curious, what is the content of this 200ft release?

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on April 28, 2008, 03:49 AM:

I have the Alien 200ft reel and it is in a standard 200ft box without the cassette.

The whole purpose of the sound on cassette releases was, as Kevo suggests, for those people with silent projectors to have a go at running the film in sync' with the tape. Very good fun it was too! For my brother and I running the film in sync' resulted in far more viewings of a title mainly to see how accurately sync' could be achieved.

The 200ft of Alien was simply the first 200ft of the 400ft edition. However, there were a couple of extra edits to get the running time down to 8 minutes. The reel ends on the chestburster scene. What a shame Ken Films never put out a second 400ft reel of this title which could have included the ending on the shuttle.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on April 30, 2008, 03:06 PM:

... and then there was this eBay gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/16mm-Feature-FILM-1979-ALIEN-Sigourney-Weaver-SCOPE_W0QQitemZ180236004015QQihZ008QQcategoryZ63821QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bit expensive for my taste.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 30, 2008, 06:34 PM:

Hmmm, now, lets see,

having perused that link to the Alien scope 16MM ....

Mine has no "redness", it's a scope L.P.P. super 8 print.

Mine has excellent sharpness

Mine is in stereo ...

Mine cost 300.00 dollars!!

I think my Derann print was a better deal.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 30, 2008, 07:11 PM:

I bet the seller of that 16mm print can't believe his luck. It might look fine now but maybe not for much longer.

I suspect the Super 8 feature would go for a pretty good price if offered on eBay, especially as it was discontinued due to neg damage a long time ago.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 30, 2008, 10:12 PM:

It ain't going ANYWHERE!!

...and oooh, it's so good!

(and anybody who owns dat dere print would say the same)

Ditto on "Aliens"

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