8mm Forum: ET Full Feature Anyone?

This is topic ET Full Feature Anyone? in forum 8mm Forum at 8mm Forum.

To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004035

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 27, 2008, 07:26 AM:

Ok so we are doing a thread on Close Encounters and the number of copies. How about ET?

I have a copy and its superb. Its obviously from a 35mm release print and has some marks at the reel changes like Close Encounters has but the quality is on a Par with Close Encounters. Mine is on LPP stock too [Smile]

How many other copies out there in collector land?

Kev.

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on September 27, 2008, 09:25 AM:

Kevin,

I've had a couple of very poor quality "E.T.'s" through my hands in the past (Italian prints I think), but never of the quality you're suggesting, I wonder where it orignated.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 27, 2008, 09:53 AM:

Barry,

Interestingly, Kevin's excellent print of ET and my excellent print of "Close Encounters (1977 version), both came one Fred Wilders, the fellow who sends the "irritating e-mails" of which we had a rousing little series of posts in the recent past.

That fellow seemed to have an inroad on some rare prints. I lost my e-mail that he sent. Hey Kevin, perhaps you can send him an e-mail and we can find out where those beautiful prints came from?

Perhaps Fred was one of those mysterious men who originated these prints in the first place? Hmmm.

Kevin, is your print letterboxed, or a full flat image?

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 27, 2008, 06:16 PM:

I'll have to check Osi but I think its Flat. Fred told me that is was a German print and that would stack up with the quality.

Kev.

Posted by Larry Arpin (Member # 744) on September 27, 2008, 11:46 PM:

Osi, is your print letterbox or full frame. I believe it was actually shot hard matted 1:85. Chip mentioned he has a print that was OK quality from 16mm.

Chip-How do you know it came from 16mm?

How many German prints were struck if anyone knows?

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on September 28, 2008, 03:07 AM:

I did hear that ET prints of German origin were in the offing some years back but we never saw one for review purposes.

I saw one of the Italian prints and it was awful.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 28, 2008, 08:59 AM:

Larry, I don't have a print of ET, I was asking Kevin about his.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on September 29, 2008, 12:41 AM:

I had a Super 8 print of ET that was letterboxed and terrible quality. I've no idea where it originated from.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on September 29, 2008, 03:13 AM:

That's the Italian one Brad.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 30, 2008, 03:31 PM:

Unfortunately mine doesnt have its original leaders so I cant give any info from looking at them. It's on LPP stock and is a Flat print.

Kev.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 30, 2008, 04:03 PM:

Kevin ...

Is that ET of your, while a flat print, letterboxed? I remember seeing ET as a kid, (well, young adult) and it wasn't a scope print, but it was letterboxed, and this wasn't a small theater running 16MM prints, so that's why I ask.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on October 02, 2008, 04:16 AM:

E.T. is a 1.85 movie, so there would have never been any scope prints made in any film gauge.

Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on October 02, 2008, 08:11 AM:

The 70mm prints of ET were screened with black side bands (the opposite to letterboxed) as this is how they did wide screen 70mm. The black sides were there as regular 70mm was 2.2:1 aspect ratio.

At the Forum here in Melbbourne, we moved the side masking in to cover the plack sections, but perhaps this was not possible in all theatres. Could this have been what you remember Osi?

David

Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on October 02, 2008, 09:13 AM:

I got my copy from Brad. He does not know where it came from, but where it went. Quality is fair, but I still like it. One less DVD I have to buy now. :-)

Posted by Larry Arpin (Member # 744) on October 02, 2008, 11:40 AM:

Had a letterbox print back in the mid 80's. But it had problems. It would jump once in awhile, not my projector, and had eye drops here and there, which I know now were applicate splashes.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on October 02, 2008, 01:35 PM:

Well, it looks like you got the winner, Kevin, (and to think that I missed it by a day ... that's no lie).

I wonder how many printings there were, how many copies of this particular German release of it?

Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on October 03, 2008, 10:50 AM:

Brad Miller writes above...

"E.T. is a 1.85 movie, so there would have never been any scope prints made in any film gauge."

Brad THANK YOU for putting it down like it.

Can we now admit there is no such thing as ADAPTED SCOPE.

Either it is flat: 1:33 to 1:85

Or it is scope: 2:35 to 2:66

With all due respect, I've never understood the term adapted scope. Unless of course you mean letterboxed, which falls into the flat category.....

~CG~

Posted by James E. Stubbs (Member # 817) on October 05, 2008, 12:24 AM:

Simple matter of info:
The opposite of letterboxed is pillarboxed.
All older films that have been transfered to HD blue ray or Digibeta for HD projection are pillarboxed. Saw a pretty good looking Digibeta HD projection of Casablanca at the Living Room Theathres here in Portland.
Cheers,

UBB.classic^TM 6.3.1.2