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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 01, 2009, 05:53 AM:
There are many ways to store (stacking) your films so it's nice to be seen. At least some people do based on:
- Film Genre (eg. all horrors, all musicals, all wars, al westerns, etc)
- Well known artists (all Elvis', all Sean Connery's, all Boris Karloff's, all Arnold's, etc)
- Company releases (all Blackhawk's, all Ken's, all Marketing's, all MGM, all Universal 8, etc)
- Serial (all L&H, all our gang/Little Rascals, all A&C, etc)
or the funny one
- Packing type (all hard case, all cardboard, all clamshell, etc).
Which one did you do....?
I must admit that I do the last one....
All Universal 8 (with additional label):
all Columbia (yellow generic box):
All Universal 8 (later box):
All Clamshell (no matter what company releases):
All Marketing & Walt Disney 200":
So what about you....?
Share your story here...(Mike Peckham... you are excluded! We already knew your style.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
)
cheers,
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 01, 2009, 09:05 AM:
Winbert,
Great topic, impressive pictures! I have so many films and so little space, that the only way I can find anything is to categorize by the distributor (except for features).
Universal-8
Castle
Derann Clamshells (Derann white boxes are nearby)
Ken cardboard box 400's (Ken clamshells are on another shelf)
Ken 200's
Features
The photos only show a small part of the closet o' film....many of the shelves are two layers deep.
Doug
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on May 01, 2009, 09:29 AM:
Winbert, Douglas, my compliments.
Well, this is an old picture. But that's more or less 'my way'. Even if this is just a part of my collection. There are here some features (but most of them have been sold or replaced) and some shorts. Shorts and features are actually stored in different places (there were some of my records too, in this picture).
[ September 18, 2009, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: Gian Luca Mario Loncrini ]
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 01, 2009, 10:25 AM:
I stack them on top of each other, no more than abo0ut 18 inches high, on this nice shelf I built for them. This doesn't become a problem as, except for my Blackhawk collection, most prints are in hard plastic containers, so the pressure doesn't affect them.
The size ratio of shelves is about the same with the eastman prints stored in the fridge in the back, except in many cases, they are in thick freezer bags with a selica gel packet or two to ward off any potential moisture, (though this fridge I use is a frost free model).
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 01, 2009, 10:42 AM:
With difficulty
You guys have fabulous collections but do you get to watch them and how are they for fade? as I notice some of those titles are quite early for super8.
Kev.
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on May 01, 2009, 11:35 AM:
All boxes neatly arranged vertically, cans also in their respective carrying cases
Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on May 01, 2009, 11:42 AM:
All features on 1200 foot reels stored in 16mm cans vertically in wooden cabinet. Divided in to three sections, CinemaScope, Disney, & general (flat mag optical). Each section alphabetical by title. Maybe sometime I can attach a photo here of it.
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on May 01, 2009, 01:02 PM:
The "no system" stacking. I have to put them whereever they will fit....they are like the Tribbles of Star Trek. no system, no room.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on May 02, 2009, 11:04 AM:
Blimy that is some well impressive collections, although we have around 350 films (from trailers to features) the storage is as it comes.
You put me to shame, ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
now i have to take a closer look and get tidying.
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 04, 2009, 12:13 AM:
Doug,
It seems you use a similar approach with me, i.e using the packing style system.
The most truly problem with this approach when our favorites were released by different distributors with different type of packing.
Look at my Elvis collections, there are those from Ken 400" (cardboard) and those from Derann and Ken 400" (clamshell) plus one from Universal 8 400" (hardcase). If I stack them together, their sizes are different, so it doesn't make any good!
If I put in different places according to the packing material, then I felt my Elvis list was not complete...!! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
How do you deal with this Doug?
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 04, 2009, 11:03 AM:
Winbert,
I arrange by the distributor, in numerical order (mostly!). If the company released their films in different types of packaging, I keep the same type together. For example, the Columbia generic boxes are grouped together, then the Columbia boxes with artwork, followed by the Columbia clamshells (good name for a band). So Columbia's "Taxi Driver" is not stacked next to Piccolo's digest from the same film, even though they're both in similar cases.
Kevin,
Some of those early color titles have fade, but luckily quite a few are holding up well. Many of my Marketing full length features are getting pinker by the day, except for "Black Sunday", "Warriors", and "War of the Worlds". I make a real attempt to screen those older films in the collection. I sell the ones I'm tired of.
How about some more pictures, folks? I like how Gian Luca has his projectors in the same display unit.
Doug
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on May 04, 2009, 11:18 AM:
Ah, the beauty, the splendor of those magnificent colorful boxes. Truly overwhelming, but wait till you get a load of mine ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Need to get a camera someday - Still looking for a 600' metal Super 8 can too
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 04, 2009, 11:40 AM:
Tired of "Popeye Meets Ali Baba" Douglas?
(No, I NEVER give up!)
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 04, 2009, 02:58 PM:
Osi,
Now that you mention it.......no.
Doug
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on May 04, 2009, 05:02 PM:
Thanks Doug. I will probably take (and post) soon some updated pictures. The one I have posted shows only the 'main' display unit. Other projectors and films are stacked in different places, depending on the available room. My collection is very dynamic: I change films' position pratically every day!
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on May 05, 2009, 10:47 AM:
- Here's some updated pictures. These are some of my 200 feet shorts and trailers (I will only consider some of my 200" titles, in this post).
Artworks for the trailers are of course not original. A good friend of mine and also collector (Marco Ottaviani: he's really great) makes them for me. I print them and here they are:
- Some shorts in my collection:
- A little more:
- And some of my gems (Italian prints... Not 200" shorts, but I couldn't avoid to post a picture... I'm in love with these titles) in their original box with artwork (except for Dario Argento's TENEBRE: the box in this case has been created by another collector):
As you have probably understood, I pay so much attention on cases and boxes, according to the content!
[ September 18, 2009, 02:11 AM: Message edited by: Gian Luca Mario Loncrini ]
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on May 11, 2009, 07:31 PM:
I like this post!
It is very satisfying to see like-minded film friends.I am always trying to figure out how to organize my collection.
I still haven't figured it out but I like the idea of doing it by the same style boxes. Right now I have them seperated by film length and format.
Here is a picture that shows part of my collection.
Bill
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 12, 2009, 11:31 AM:
Gian ...
That is a very lovely collection of boxes!
I wish I had that kind of drive for my collection.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on May 12, 2009, 11:57 AM:
Osi, that's really very kind of you. It's part of the fun: I always try to find the way to 'supply' a nice box or case to every film reaching my collection.
Cannot see them 'naked' when I get some without any box. I love Derann prints also, of course, just to make an example, but cannot leave the movies in those white, anonymous cardboard boxes. Colors, colors, colors!
Nice picture, Bill!
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on May 24, 2009, 01:04 AM:
I am so jealous as to how beautiful everyone's collections look....I guess I tend to organize by format since I have all of my 16mm and 35mm(including Nitrate) in the cold storage facilities at the archive I work at, Most of the rest I used to store in my workroom at the archive but I switched to an office so most went home and I have only recently been trying to put it in some form of order. While currently this only represents a tiny fraction of my collection it is getting there (I have a whole storage space filled with projectors)..I have them on shelves by format, and I am now switching from cans over to the white boxes (I like the clean look), and I have about 50 silent features stuck on those extend-a-reels of which I no longer have the actual extend a reel to use them with so i'm slowly switching them over to 1200 & 1600 reels. Now the storage.....
The Good (Reg8)
(Super8)
The Better (9.5mm)
& of course The Ugly (unboxed/uncanned 9.5)
---Oh and the red box/drawer is how I store the 3000+ movies I have on DVD, and another 1200+ CD's. I have those in paper sleeves & numbered with a database so I can find stuff. I actually also have a database for my films so I can keep track of stuff (especially since I have them in different locations) like where I get them, how much I paid, when I play them, inspect them, etc
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on May 24, 2009, 11:54 AM:
Oh, I'd like to know the titles on some of those boxes, especially the Blackhawks - Hi, just back from CINEVENT in Ohio
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on June 23, 2009, 07:09 PM:
New pictures coming soon. I'm buying two new display units: the main one is exploding!
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 23, 2009, 07:53 PM:
Ooooh, if only to be that organized!
Actually, my collection has changed due to "Devin" needs. So, now, I have separated all my black and white prints into a another room that is not as climate controlled (for the moment), as Devin is starting to crawl up on shelves. All the color L.P.P. prints are on higher shelves, the bottom shelves have now been taken over by Devin's toys, (one of which is a broken down "Copal" projector!)
The interesting fact is that now that I have placed all of DEvin's toys underneath the shelves of films, Devin no longer desires to play with his toys, (or the films, strangely).
So, black and whites, separate room.
L.P.P. prints up a few shelves.
All Kodak SP and Eastman prints? In the fridge!
Wacky, eh?
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on June 24, 2009, 03:31 AM:
WE WANT PICTURES eh eh eh...
Posted by Roy Neil (Member # 913) on September 17, 2009, 11:10 PM:
I made these for a friend and I thought I would share them with you. I should probably make a few for myself but Im too busy making film cleaners :\
..I had a little fun with the Jaws box
www.videoglue.com/ftp/uploads/Boxes/Boxes1.JPG
www.videoglue.com/ftp/uploads/Boxes/Boxes2.JPG
www.videoglue.com/ftp/uploads/Boxes/Boxes3.JPG
www.videoglue.com/ftp/uploads/Boxes/Boxes4.JPG
The boxes are not airtight and breathe easily, birch plywood ( like used to make doors ) white glue to assemble, thin coat of acrylic varnish on exteriors, no finish on interiors. Baked in oven @ 275 degrees for 4 hours to ensure adequate drying.
Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on September 18, 2009, 12:39 AM:
Dear Roy Neil
Your boxes are more than fantastic. Especially the Jaws box… really funny. Thumbs up.
Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on September 18, 2009, 05:05 AM:
Dear Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
Your collection is great. It is very tight, clean very well presented. The custom artworks are wonderful and the boxes lined up like a big and expensive store’s shopping window. Great job. Beautiful result.
I have a few questions for you.
I saw a film of Pink Floyd (I am a big fan) named ‘Another brick in the wall”. Is the song promo short by Derann or something else? I need to know!
About the boxes you use. I believe that those boxes are the best for storing the films. Are those boxes new? If they are new where I can find some for me?
Keep up the good work!
Thanking you in advance,
Antonis
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 18, 2009, 05:55 AM:
Hi Roy,
Good work with those boxes.
My question, did you print or use ink to writ the title in the box?
I am asking this because yesterday I was in an exhibition and saw an engrave machine connected with computer. SO once you have a file (any picture file) the machine will engrave in any kind of surface, e.g metal, wood, plywood, etc, according o the picture file.
So basically, if we have an artwork of particular film, we can engrave in that box too !! Isn't that nicer??
cheers,
Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 1337) on September 18, 2009, 10:19 AM:
Bought some guys collection of like 500 films as a whole, didn't know where to put it, so I shoved it in this bookcase
theres actually another level covered up by generic clothespile
and the 35 and crap goes in the spacious walk in robe.
small photos... big mess.
[ April 29, 2010, 10:24 AM: Message edited by: Damien Taylor ]
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on September 18, 2009, 10:48 AM:
Hi Antonis, how are you? I hope all is right there.
Thanks for your compliments. I will post soon some new pictures (there are now two new display units next to the main one).
So, yes, the Pink Floyd promo you are referring to is the Derann release. Just let me have your PM and I will happy to supply you this cover (that has proper size to be stick on a 200 ft white cardboard box too). As I wrote in one of my previous post, a friend of mine make these artworks for me.
About clamshell boxes: a lot of collectors don't love them. It seems the films don't 'breath' but in 30 years I've been spending by collecting super 8 movies, all titles I have stored in plastic boxes like those ones are still excellent. That's why I'm going on this way.
They are not produced anymore, of course. But it's quite easy to find shorts printed in Italy (TECHNO FILM, e.g.) during the 70's-early 80's who were supplied in those boxes. I normally buy these old prints (used and at a very cheap price, of course), remount them on big reels (or give them as a present to other collectors who should be interested) and use the original clamshall ones for new releases (trailers, shorts, excerpts). That's it. Take care and thanks once more for asking. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 19, 2009, 07:47 AM:
Antonis and Gian,
For those clamshell box type, rather than to buy ex film which is usually has a price, just buy ex reel to reel tape those are priced for nothing.
The 200" reel to reel tape (1/4 inch) is exactly the same size with 200" feet reel film.
cheers,
Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on September 19, 2009, 04:39 PM:
Thank you for the tip Winbert.
But this tip confused me a little bit. I have a reel to reel player and I have a lot of tapes original productions and blanks. I know that the sizes are exactly the same but I have never seen a reel to reel clamshell plastic box. Only on cardboard. I will check again on EBay. Hope to find any.
Thank you once more
Antonis
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on September 19, 2009, 06:47 PM:
New display units for my movies and some of my projectors.
Two small 'wings' aside the main one:
The following picture is a little better (maybe!):
Right side of the main unit (boxes have been created by Mr. Luigi Petrin):
Left one:
Right wing unit where some Disney shorts, trailers and some of my Elmo are stored:
In detail...
Some artworks for my trailers are still missing. Waiting for them (creator is Mr. Marco Ottaviani).
Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on September 19, 2009, 10:49 PM:
Damien, nice collection. If you want to off load any of your collection, be sure to let me know, there are always titles I'm after in Super 8.
David
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 20, 2009, 08:11 AM:
Antonis,
quote:
but I have never seen a reel to reel clamshell plastic box.
In my home country (Indonesia) many blank tapes (reel to reel) were homed in clamshell type. Mostly the brands were "Phillips" (Holland). Please try Ebay.de or Ebay.nl
There were also 200" feet (8mm film length) size reel to reel pre-recorded tape but mostly education/language course tapes.
Antonis, there is another tip that you can make those old clamshell plastics become shiner once they have dull surface. Take car wax and clean the surface like you do with your car paint. It will become like new look again!!
I am always happy when look an 8mm film sitting in just printed artworks houses in a new look clamshell
cheers,
Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on September 20, 2009, 09:47 AM:
Gian Luca Mario Loncrini. You are the KING!
This is a masterpiece. It is the most beautiful presentation I have ever seen. Now words are very poor... don't you think?
B R A V O ! Belisimo!
About the Pink Floyd artwork thank you very much for the offer. No need to post me one. BUT we can trade our custom artworks with mail. For examle I can sent you .jpg (photo) or .ncd (Nero Cover Designer) files. I have made a very nice with Scrat (Ice age) for 200' reel plastic clamshell case.
Thank you and for ones more bravo for your films presentation.
Antonis
neonlights32 (at) hotmail (dot) com
Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 1337) on September 20, 2009, 10:23 AM:
Actually David, as it is, I'm not sure if I want to keep collecting 8mm, or just stick to 16/35. I answered the ad in the paper and saw this guys collection, I just had to have it ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
LSS, I'll shoot you some unwanted titles, doubles etc...
Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on September 20, 2009, 11:59 AM:
Hi, Gianluca! From your display system I see you also colect Goldrake reels. Have you got any of these youmay want to part from or double ones you'd like to exchange (I have a few doubles...).
If ineterested let me know at
maurizio_dicintio at fastwebnet dot it
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on September 20, 2009, 05:55 PM:
Hi Antonis. Thanks once more for all compliments. I will mail you right away the cover that was expecially created for that Derann promo. It will be a pleasure to supply it to you. It's a jpg file already sized: you just have to print the way it is.
Maurizio, I'm so honoured I was contacted by you. I will mail you in a couple of minutes. Thanks for you interest, anyway.
CIAO.
Posted by Roy Neil (Member # 913) on March 01, 2010, 10:58 PM:
My question, did you print or use ink to writ the title in the box?
Yikes !
Im only about 6 months late answering this post - my apologies
I used an Epilog Laser to cut the plywood. The artwork I created using a CAD system ( for the individual pieces to create the slip cases ) and I used InkScape in order to create the additional artwork engraved on the sides.
I took digital artwork ( scanned movie posters ) and recreated the movie titles using spline-based outlines. The Epilog Laser will accept either vector or raster based artwork. Raster based artwork ( photos, etc ) are 'scanned/etched' into the material much the same way an inkjet printer 'scans' an image onto paper. Vector based artwork ( squares, circles, spline based lines, etc) are used as lines that are 'cut' using the laser. The Laser has power settings for both Raster and Vector operations, in order to tune the cutting or etching force to the material. In this instance I used a very low power setting to 'cut' the spline based artwork into the material. So the net result is those lines are about a 1/8" deep in the material, and no ink was used on the boxes at all.
I have gotten a few requests to make these available for sale - Im looking into the production details. I can 'probably' offer them in plastic ( acrylic ) or wood ( birch ply as in photos ) I have a few different designs available for the inner box, and I can provide artwork as needed or use customer supplied artwork.
Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on March 02, 2010, 12:32 AM:
When you are done with the "production details" please inform us with some photos and prices.
Thank you
Antonis
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on March 02, 2010, 07:03 AM:
quote:
I used an Epilog Laser to cut the plywood. The artwork I created using a CAD system ( for the individual pieces to create the slip cases ) and I used InkScape in order to create the additional artwork engraved on the sides.
Hi Roy, that is exactly what I saw in the exhibition and I mentioned on my above posting you referred. That is a sort of a laser engraver (to be used in a hard surface).
Good!
Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on March 02, 2010, 08:42 PM:
Roy...Beautiful job on the boxes (and the film cleaner!) You are a genuine craftsman
Bill
Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on October 06, 2010, 07:29 PM:
Doug....What are the racks that you have your 200'ers on? I've tried wire DVD racks and theyre too slim in depth. Film slip off and fall to the floor unless I put the rack up against a wall. Winbert....When does your shop open? You've got a veritable Film Store. Good Lord....You fellas have me beat! Whew! Winbert... Where and how do you stack/store your features? I only see digests. I searched IKEA for "Billy" shelves and they appear to be standard pressed-wood bookcases unless the pictures don't tell the whole story.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on October 06, 2010, 08:14 PM:
Brad,
I can't find the same type online, but they look very similar to this. It's 40" high and the slots are 3/4" wide.
Doug
Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on October 06, 2010, 08:39 PM:
Phil Johnson uses old paperback book spinners from years ago and the 200'ers fit in them perfectly. I have an uncle who once owned a bookstore, but dumped all the fixtures when he retired. Retailers often get calendar fixtures they sometimes discard, but they've all been too wide or too deep for both my 8mm and 16mm goodies. Most of my babies are on wire 4-shelf rolling racks (the type you see in medical supply rooms) that I bought at BJ's a few years ago, but now I'm actually keeping the 16mm stuff in hat boxes I bought from TJ MAX. The reels fit perfectly in these boxes which come in various sizes. The caveat, is the graphic art on the boxes themselves in no way leverage any support (asthetically speaking) to a film library if you get my drift. It's hard finding hat boxes that don't have a feminine motif to the artwork that covers them. In addition, there's a weight limit before the bottom gives out and your merch is all over the floor.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 06, 2010, 09:35 PM:
For my 200 footers I use a CD/DVD rack. Please don't take this as a reccomendation though: given the least excuse I get a cascade of films on the floor.
-Someday this rack will become what it's best suited for: firewood.
Single 400 and 600 Footers go on bookshelves.
Everything gets stacked vertically except boxed features (because the covers need gravity to stay on...) When I store a feature with the last reel only partially full I store that with reel "1" at the bottom and the last reel on top because the weight of the other reels on the partially full one would warp that reel's flanges.
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on October 07, 2010, 01:30 PM:
quote:
Winbert... Where and how do you stack/store your features? I only see digests.
Brad, I don't have full feature (or I do have 1-2 titles. I enjoy digest which for me is the nature of 8mm (+ their art boxes) .
cheers,
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 11, 2013, 09:37 AM:
[bump]....please continue
Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on February 11, 2013, 09:55 AM:
Here's how I've stacked it, temporarily, I am working on getting reels and boxes for it all, and will be sorting new artwork for pretty much everything. All the 3x400 and 2x600 featurettes are going on 1x1200' reels once the ST-1200 arrives and I get enough reels for it
Posted by Laksmi Breathwaite (Member # 2320) on February 11, 2013, 10:31 AM:
Winbert I love digest to which I think as well is the nature of the hobby.Like this with my collection and try to store low or you will get them a bit warm and not so cool hot air rises. I like to see film covers so I feel interested to watch the movies. 
Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on February 11, 2013, 10:57 AM:
Alphabetical order 400' 600' together. Features separate alphabetical order also.
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on February 11, 2013, 11:09 AM:
Lak, you have three there that I need - Shorty
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 11, 2013, 11:16 AM:
Pat, show us some photos of your stack so we can also enjoy your collection.
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