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Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on December 30, 2009, 12:15 PM:

Ok, here is the topic.
We can count here how many collectors would like to buy a full lenght S8 print of CARS.
This is only a tehoretic list, we are not in the possition to make a release because it is forbidden to own a 35mm print, [Frown]

but maybe someone who can arrange a release read this topic. [Wink]

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on December 30, 2009, 01:01 PM:

Count on me.

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on December 30, 2009, 02:30 PM:

I'm game.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on December 30, 2009, 03:55 PM:

Count me in for 2 x 400" (can we pledge for this Oemer ? [Wink]

)

I will be ready in creating the artwork cover (you are too Gian, aren't you)

cheers,

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on December 30, 2009, 05:40 PM:

Something I threw together quick as I got bored:

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on December 31, 2009, 11:17 AM:

Guys, I don't wish to cast a "downer" on this subject but please be careful about what is "proposed" and what artwork is published on the Forum.

Christians' box artwork is great but when you start to use "Disney" and "Pixar", on an open Forum, it can become a "little dangerous" with regards to "copyright".

We had a similar problem about 18 months ago with a "proposed release" of a certain "T3" title and the way it was being promoted. The thread was eventually removed by one of the moderators to preserve the integrity of the Forum.

Please don't think me a "killjoy" I would like to see such a release myself but not to the detriment of this splendid forum or the people involved.

Having possibly created a "downer", please let me wish you all a Happy, Safe and Prosperous New Year for 2010.

Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on December 31, 2009, 01:27 PM:

If "CARS" was ever to be released on the super 8 format, I would certainly purchase a 2 x 400 foot digest. Probably not a full-feature though, as I'm not a huge CGI animation fan.

Although, if "Up" were ever available, I would jump at a feature!

James.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on December 31, 2009, 03:32 PM:

I think its highly unlikely a cutdown/digest would ever be released again due to the cost and time for editing. Who would do it and who would print it. The 2 big companies in the UK have already made it clear they prefer full episodes/features due to the lower demand today and initial cost. You could do it independatally using the german labs, but having a 35mm negative is only the start. Im no expert but you would have to have a lump of cash just to get a super 8 neg made and then many many orders to run off affordable copies. You could of course just get 1 or 2 copies printed but unless you are a millionaire, forget it.

Still I think ****nn made the trailer which still might be available. Better than nothing.

Sorry to tell it like it is, but it would only happen if one of the big boys decides to go for it and uses their contacts (and money), but at the moment that's unlikely.

It's nice to have the enhusiasm on this forum but people need to be realistic.

Graham S

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on December 31, 2009, 08:05 PM:

The trailer is now discontinued.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on January 01, 2010, 07:04 AM:

Thanks for that info Gian. Yes a lot of new trailers seem to get discontinued not long after they come out. Its a case of buy quickly when they are available.

I didnt want to cast too much of a downer on the whole idea if Cars is one of your favourite films. Personally the one Pixar feature or extract I would love most is Finding Nemo but again I cant see it happening at the moment. I hope End Of Days isnt the last movie film produced on super 8 (excluding adverts and short films etc.) but it seems things have stalled on the new releases front to the point that they have given up.

However if you really want a 2x400ft release there is no reason why you cant have 2 complete 18 minute sequences and just splice on the opening titles and the end.

Graham S

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 01, 2010, 07:44 AM:

There are hundreds of titles, recent and not, that would be great to have on 8mm. But of course I know it would be quite impossible to see them issued on this format.
I like to collect movies and to dream too [Wink]

.

I'm quite sure CARS or FINDING NEMO will never be released on 8mm (oh... My favorite is RATATOUILLE, anyway).
But it's good to know at least there could be a possibility.

Who knows?
Here's a link to my copy of CARS trailer (not the best, although the sound is EXCELLENT - I was using my Elmo ST 1200 HD; it's a very short one). I will delete it if there is any problem.

Cars Trailer

You are right about the fact that some trailers were immediately discontinued after they came out. I'll give my right hand to find Disney's TREASURE PLANET and Pixar's FINDING NEMO, Graham. I'm after them and I know there are some, out there. I cannot unfortunately find a single copy [Frown]

. And yes, it is probably because I was not quick enough to buy them, when they were available.

Well, we could even stop to write about this project here on the forum as Keith (welcome back!) has suggested for the reasons we all know. But, once again, in case I'M IN Oemer [Big Grin]

Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on January 01, 2010, 08:20 AM:

I have also the Cars Trailer on S8 and this is one of the worsest recent prints I have. This must be struck in scope.

Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on January 01, 2010, 08:52 AM:

Yeah Gian,treasure planet,i hope this title will be released someday,i'll be the first that buy this one [Wink]

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 01, 2010, 09:37 AM:

I love it too, Jeroen.
In this case I'll be the second one [Wink]

. Happy New Year to you and R.
Ciao.

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on January 05, 2010, 02:13 AM:

*Repost*
For me an edit version of the C*rs film in 2x400 would be fine.
A full version will be very expensive, for some of us, in the forum. I believe with the edit version we will find more volunteers. I am one of them.
Happy New Year!!!

Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on January 05, 2010, 03:01 AM:

I would like to have a full length print of C., too, but I think it is too expensive fot me.
Will it be in scope or in flat ?

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 05, 2010, 02:24 PM:

Hi Michael.
Better to ask Oemer. I suppose it would be flat.

Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on January 05, 2010, 02:52 PM:

Hi everyone,

Count me in for a full length scope version [Big Grin]

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on January 05, 2010, 02:55 PM:

Oemer, are you tuned?

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on January 06, 2010, 01:30 AM:

I did some editing/cutting on it last night just for giggles, and I think a 2x400 version would be really hard to make without cutting vital parts and/or removing characters or subplots.

A 3x400' would be alot easier to make.

Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on January 06, 2010, 02:18 AM:

Hi Christian,

that's what I think, too.
Perhaps a 3x or 4x 400 ft. Version.
The story is too extensive.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 06, 2010, 07:04 AM:

quote:
I think a 2x400 version would be really hard to make without cutting vital parts and/or removing characters or subplots.

The editor tends to keep everything resulting longer reels. But company needs to cut down the production cost.

Christian....that is why I made a competition. [Wink]

Please remember that one of MGM editor was forced to make 16 minutes editing version of 3.5 hours Ben-Hur (1959)...heeheeehe... [Big Grin]

(and also 197 minutes of Doctor Zhivago).

So keep your work pal....try to limit only on important scenes. Some scenes may be to dear to be deleted, but look onto general story, i.e :

First race ---> No winner ----> McQueen is transported to another city ---> trapped in a loose town ---> meeting with the town's dwellers (here you have to cut some the not-too-important scenes) ---> McQueen is found ----> Back to Race ---> THE END

What do you think?

cheers

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on January 06, 2010, 07:13 AM:

Yes, Winbert, I am aware of that [Wink]

I'll try to make another draft and be less critical when cutting. [Smile]

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on January 06, 2010, 06:08 PM:

Winbert...nice production skills...keep it on budget!

Christian...keep fighting for your vision!

Bill

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on January 06, 2010, 10:36 PM:

Although I'd be amazed if 'Cars' actually was released, Derann still sell Disney features so it's probably true to say that theoretically they could release a recent Disney/Pixar film, so long as Disney are still willing to provide a negative and Derann are willing to make whatever investment is required.

I don't know what quantity of sales would be needed to make such a release viable, but if Adrian Simmonds was guaranteed advance deposits from, say, 50 collectors, he might conceivably at least think about it! As 'Cars' was the very last film to be made available (for hire) on 16mm in the USA, I suppose it might be possible to borrow the negative used for this and thereby reduce costs. I think it's impossible that Disney would approve an edited version, though.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on January 07, 2010, 07:06 AM:

Disney are no longer interested in Super 8 so the chance of anything coming out from that studio is minimal.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 07, 2010, 09:19 AM:

John, let us hope that an eccentric Disney's boss comes with this idea [Wink]

Just to remind you that when LP (vinyl) went down in 1990s, an eccentric idea come to the mind of Pear Jam members to release their "Vitalogy" album on vinyl only!!.

For the first month who ever wanted to hear their album need to have a Turntable. (it was released on CD following after)

I wish the same eccentric idea also arrive in one of Disney's boss... just crossing our fingers... for example in remembrance of something... who knows? There is nothing wrong to dream about it.... [Big Grin]

cheers,

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on January 07, 2010, 11:43 AM:

I sometimes think how great it would be if an extremely rich eccentric who loves film was willing to put vast amounts of money into new Super 8 releases, and into producing new equipment, and was not bothered about getting little of his money back! Maybe we need to try and find a suitable candidate...

Posted by Mark Howard (Member # 870) on January 07, 2010, 06:16 PM:

What about Donald Trump? He's got a few quid about him. If I ever won the lottery I'd step in, but I can't see it somehow. I'd love to see Cars on S8, and would even settle for some of the shorts BBC3 screened over Christmas.

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