8mm Forum: Green(ish) print, why is that?

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 02, 2010, 01:23 PM:

Hi,

I have just received a 400" "Can can" (Ken Films).

What is confusing me that the picture is quite greenish.

We all know what is reddish or pinkish print, but this is greenish. What make it this?

Lab fault? or negative fault?

See below pictures for your obeservation

Please note that picture no. 1 and 2 have a bit correction from my digital camera. The closest sitaution is on the last photo.

cheers

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on July 02, 2010, 01:57 PM:

I think the most likely explanation is that it was the lab that was at fault rather than any sort of fade. I've heard it said that Agfa prints can occasionally fade to green (and I have a green 16MM feature that I think is Agfa), but your print is unlikely to be Agfa and even if it was, I'm not sure if there's any evidence of it happening to an 8mm print.

Posted by Evan Hayenga (Member # 2090) on July 03, 2010, 05:58 AM:

I was a color corrector for a professional film lab and it's obvious to me these shots need some magenta and yellow. Probably 5 and 2. I agree with the person who replied that Agfa and Fuji tend to have a green look. Also, this is a common look for poor storage of cartridges before they were exposed. Sealed refrigeration is a must! Film stocks that go through being warm and cold over and over again, destroy magnetic particles and will give the film this look. Not only are they deteriorated but out of focus as well. It's obvious the shots are overexposed as well by a good full stop or so. The last photo the man is wearing a black jacket and you can see how a few points of yellow would have corrected that. I'd blame it on the lens as well. Poor quality at best! The lens is what separates good from bad. A lousy body with a great lens is always the best choice rather than the opposite!
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Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on July 03, 2010, 08:00 AM:

Please pardon my ignorance but I don't get some statements of yours; what do you mean when you say "magnetic particles"?

Also we are dealing with prints here, so what do camera bodies have to do with this topic? And cartridges? Print film is not encased in cartridges as you must certainly know

Actually I once got back a K40 from Kodak in 1983 which had some 10 seconds of a strong green tint but Kodak themselves admitted there was a problem during processing and they refunded the stock with a new cartridge.

And finally how does poor storage affect focus? Can you clarify? Thank you.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on July 03, 2010, 01:30 PM:

some time ago i aquired a rare 400 footet which was cannon the tv series out take or gag reel, this was 100% green and unfortunatly i had returned it as un watchable.

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